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NEW TOPIC PLEASE: LACK OF BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2016
The new Fiscal Year will start October 1st. The standoff between the Executive Branch and the Legislative Branch has moved from the sublime to the ridiculous. All of this political posturing will ultimately affect our tribal members the most, and only in a negative way. For what purpose? To feed the egos of little-minded men (and women) who have forgotten the faces of their elders and who only have their own best interests (and agendas) locked into their narrow-minded pea brains. Both sides are at fault for the pitiful state in which our tribe currently resides; however, neither side has the character nor the fortitude to step up and say “we both screwed up, we can’t fix the past, but we can move forward and try to resolve this by working together to find a reasonable solution.” And by reasonable it is meant a solution that puts the tribal members at the forefront. Remember the tribal members? The elderly, the disabled, the young? The very group of people you took an oath to serve and protect? No, as previously stated – it is more important to feed our self-important, self-centered, self-serving, narcissistic egos. Everyone of you within the upper ranks of this tribal government should be ashamed and hope like hell that you do not one day find yourselves in the very position that your current actions have put the majority of our tribal members. I’d pray for you but I’m afraid that would make me as big a hyprocrit as you.
So, it looks to me like when Muscogee Creek Nation started this business they only had potential investors. That’s why no one would tell who the investors were.
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Shelly Harjo-Davis 6:30pm Sep 11
VERY IMPORTANT Absentee Ballot information:
Several have said that instead of their completed absentee ballot going to the Election Board, it was returned to them. The problem is the citizens’ ADDRESS & BARCODE are on the back of the return envelope. When I have mailed packages, I know to block out any barcodes that are not the intended addressee. I plan to go to the Election Board tomorrow to find out their suggestion for dealing with this issue. Will post as soon as I know.
Shelly Harjo-Davis 6:31pm Sep 11
Spoke with the Election Board. They feel insulted, but I have never said anything bad about them–just questions about the process and the AES company. From what I have seen, the disparaging remarks have only been on GT’s FB page.
It was not Alvin Bucktrot who was snoring so loudly.
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Please contact me by next Wednesday so we know how many tables are needed—-Shelly Harjo-Davis at 918 814 7513 or email@example.com. we would like for all candidates to come to get your word out there. Mvto
Muscogee Creek Movement
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We the Muscogee Creek Movement believe in the Constitutional Rights of all Muscogee citizens, acknowledging that the citizens are the government. The elected officials, appointed officials, department heads or managers are not the government.
We the Muscogee People will assist and inform citizens with information and knowledge to empower them to be active in our tribal government. This includes voting, asking questions of officials and to demand answers, respecting our culture and being able to take on issues without intimating or intimidation.
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Lanissa Jack Melton‘s post.
July 18 at 8:05pm ·
THIS HAS BECAME A RACE MATTER CREATED MY THE PERSON WHO HOSTED THIS LISTENING MEETING. I AM POSTING THE MINUTES FROM CONCERNS CITIZENS THAT WENT AND THEIR TAKE ON THE MEETING/ CAMPAIGN LISTENING MEETING. MY FELLOW CREEK CITIZENS ARE SMART AND PLEASE READ THESE POSTS AND MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION. I AND ANOTHER CITIZEN WHO IS A FULL CREEK CITIZEN SPEAKS OUR LANGUAGE AND IS A VETERAN AND AN ELDER ARE BEEN ATTACKED VERBALLY. ITS SAD BECAUSE WE JUST WANTING THE CITIZENS TO KNOW WHATS HAPPENING IN THE NATION.
Lanissa Jack Melton
Went to a listening session last night. Hosted by the Muscogee Creek Nation, held in Beggs. I didn’t know about the meeting until Sunday by a city council. Then the city council member announced it at the monthly meeting to the city of Beggs. Two individuals who are not from the city of Beggs named Charlene Adams Lovelace and Eli Grayson was responsible for the meeting. They were both asked if they were the spokesperson for the city. Charlene Lovelace said that she would be the contact person. The meeting started out to be informational. Employees gave their speeches. Questions were asked and answered if possible. During the beginning of the meeting a man asked a question then a woman who let them use the church Said “SHUT UP” out loud to the man. I sat in the far back of the room and clearly heard her say that in church in Gods house. How rude and disrespectful. At that moment I felt uncomfortable. Towards the end the two individuals wanted to have another meeting at the same church. I stood up waving my hand for 10 minutes kept clearing my throat to be recognized. Finally a gentleman said just talk. I didn’t want to be rude. So when I did I suggested that we should have it at a centralized location such as the city hall or the community center. Eli Grayson stood up and said loud and clear “This Meeting Is For All Muscogee Creek Citizens” I was stunned by that comment. I am half Muscogee Creek and half non-Indian. Who is traditional, culturally oriented, and speaks the language. A lady in front of me said what is that suppose to mean. At that moment I was discriminated against. Apparently I wasn’t dark enough to be at the meeting that was held by the Muscogee Creek Nation. My own tribe with a roll number. No one even corrected him. Not even the Principal Chief. This is not our culture we are to respect one another especially women. We are maternal lineage. Eli Grayson has been verbally abusive and aggressive to our people. This is not right. I am livid and nor have I ever been disgraced in a public setting. Individuals from this city came up and apologized to me for his behavior and said that he doesn’t belong in this town nor does he live in this town. They said he might have some family in this town, but not enough to make a difference. They stated that they voted me in as a city council member and being rude and disrespectful to our city council representatives is uncalled for. citizens said that was clearly racist and at the upmost disrespectful. Who came into this town and barely advertised the meeting.
This has been on my mind all day. Tell me what you think.
Eli was raised as a Jew by his father who was ashamed to be Native. This is what Eli told me years ago. Since then he has made threats to sue me for defamation. He disrespectfully told me to get a job when I was going to the University as an adult for my Doctorate in Psychology. He thought he could hurt me that way with ridiculous and slanderous put downs, even when I was completing my dream of education after leaving the Marine Corp and living with PTSD, Dyslexia, and ADHD as obstacles. His insensitivity to the plight of Muscogee Citizens with disadvantages below his self-acclaimed financial stature is arrogantly displayed in his community posturing as a savior to us lowlife impoverished ignorant Indians.
He never lived the lifestyle of a Muscogee citizen growing up, yet he has come into the Muscogee Nation in my opinion as a elitist and a person a step above most citizens. He has referred to the Muscogee people in general as racists in some of his talks when he was in California. This because of his agenda with the Freedmen. He even spoke of George as a liar and a thief when he ran his first race as Chief. His money is his strength and certainly not his humility and values as a Creek Gentleman/whatever gender he identifies with. I have no respect for this person and how he is able to charm his way next to our more affluent citizens seems to be a pattern he sets for himself. Besides being disingenuous regarding his personal agenda to manage our Nation from the sidelines he has become George Tigers confidant. He has intelligent concepts yet acts out with narcissistic rage if you disagree with him. He is the epitome of a lateral oppressor. Eli Grayson is not a friend of the Muscogee People in my opinion. He should have entered the Muscogee Nation sideways with humility and showing respect. Instead he came amongst us with a self-aggrandizing motive. I do not trust him and I look forward to the day I confront him in public amongst our citizens. We’ll see if he shouts this Proud Native Muscogee Citizen down…
Let me add my FB conversation to what you have to say cuz.
Conversation started August 4, 2012
You are no principal chief; you are merely a wannabe. My Great Uncle was Principal Chief in 1979. your heritage club is likened to the Yemassee Negros thinking they are Redman.
Eli Grayson8/4, 11:08pm
who the fuck are you…are you NUTTS…
listen you fucking idiot, I dont and anyone else dont gives a rats ass about you are your supposedly ancestry…NO ONE CARES but you…and if you do have Mvskoke ancestry I will tell you they are quite embarrassed to have a descendant like you…you RACIST FUCK! YOU ARE AN EMBASSEMENT TO INDIAN PEOPLE…but I doubt if you are because no MVSKOKE act like your stupid ass…GO TAKE YOUR PROZAX FOOL…one other thing, you dont have any clue you creap who was the first elected chief of the Creeks….that would have been more than a thousand years ago…learn the dang history before you show how ignorant you are…
oh…now that’s explains it…Cox’s sperm…show did express me with him…lol…its amazing you actually know how to use your brain and fingers for typing…I do believe their is civil war museum looking for relics to hang around like you…Charles just in a few words from you, I can tell you are an embarrassment to your family…the loser in the family so to speak, shzt even Claude had a little common sense…but you, a mouth and brain with no intelligence whats so ever…Im going to copy these messages and place them on my face book so that other tribal members can be aware of your crazy insane ass….cant wait for Buddy Cox to see this….he would probaly say you are just off your medication…you know the ole saying sometimes you feel like a nut, will Im sure its all the time for you…lol
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Grayson called himself chief of the Creeks in California.
This is his agenda, wannabe. How many Creek can there be in California and where is the headquarters of his chiefdom located. What form of govt. did he oversee as wannabe chief?
Making derogatory statements regarding Our past Chief/Uncle is unsettling. Grayson is not worth your anger nor your debate. If he didn’t have money and people to pay to think for him he would have no intelligent thought to convey. I mentioned he has intelligent ideas. I didn’t mention they were probably his lawyers ideas. Whatever the case may be he had no right in hell speaking to you my relative in that way. I’m sure his cancer will eat his vile embodiment soon. The Muscogee/Yuchi people are strong. Let Eli dig his own grave.
Eli likes to bully people. Mostly weak frightened people. Creek men need to step up and stop this guy. He has been spewing vile vulgar threats to many for way too long. He is shrouded in good deeds that draw big attention like the true NPD he is. NPD’s need attention and lots of it. If you cross them they punish you severely. He himself is a racist.
PRINCIPAL CHIEF CANDIDATE FILING
James Richard Floyd McIntosh District
Adam Jones II McIntosh District
David Nichols Okmulgee District
George Phillip Tiger Creek District
Thomas Yahola Tukvpvtce District
SECOND CHIEF CANDIDATE FILING
Louis Andrew Hicks Okmulgee District
COUNCIL CANDIDATE FILING
Eleanor Irene VanBuskirk
Johnnie Lou (Chalakee) Green
David Walter Hill
Sharon G. Rose
Tom O. Pickering
Darrell R. Proctor
Mose “Pete” Beaver
Arlene Frances Davis
Lena L. Wind
Eugenia Karol Tiger
Hazel Grace Bunner
Nelson Scott Harjo
Pearl (Chalakee) Thomas
Samuel Gene Whitlow
Christopher L. Powell
The following citizens have filed or announced:
Creek – David Walter Hill
Muskogee – Mose “Pete” Beaver
Okmulgee – Sandra Peters, Nelson Harjo
Tulsa – Robert Lee Hufft
McIntosh – Wilson Bear
Okfuskee – Arlene Frances David
Tukvpvtce – David Jimboy, Edwin Marshall, Rufus Scott, Samuel Whitlow
Wagoner/Rogers/Mayes – Johnnie Lou Green
Each Seat A will be voted on at the upcoming election.
Seat A – David Hill
Seat B – Dode Barnett
Seat A – Darrell Proctor
Seat B – Adam Jones III
Seat A – Pete Beaver
Seat B – Joyce D. Deere
Seat A – Frank Coachman
Seat B – Mitch Jack
Seat A – David Nichols
Seat B – James Jennings
Seat A – Shirlene Ade
Seat B – Thomas Yahola
Seat A – Robert Hufft
Seat B – Lucian Tiger III
Seat A – Johnnie Greene
Seat B – Mark Randolph
To VOC, please, new topic from Curious1
We have been informed of what happened at that meeting between the leaders of the 5 Civilized tribes & Obama.
G. Tiger went down there expecting ruffles & flourishes for himself and we hear is that he took along the Youth group from MCN’s new org.
Entry into Obama’s session was thru the Secret Service, so George’s background was checked — and he failed the S. S. background check so he wouldn’t be allowed in. Who would then tell George that he would not be allowed to enter — so the S. S. asked Chief Baker (Cherokee Nation) if he would bear the news to George. He said NO, he couldn’t because it was too embarrassing (don’t know if he meant for himself, George or Indians). Somebody did inform George.
If you’re wondering why that news of his meeting isn’t splattered all over the facebook, along with pictures — that is the reason. You know how he is about self-promotion. I don’t know if we as a tribe should be embarrassed, but I’m not. (Where is the transparency?)
George’s people always attack Chief A. D. Ellis, but Ellis and his “1st Lady” passed all those background checks, as were invited into the White House by President Bush for a large gathering. George’s 1st lady was not with him. Could she pass the background check?
If anyone can add to this, please do.
Per Facebook Comment:
Muscogee Creek Nation
Invites you to attend a Listening Session
Hosted by Principal Chief George Tiger
At Beggs, Oklahoma
Handy Chapel A.M.E. Church
1st and BroadwayJuly 16th, 2015
For more information please contact,
Charlene Adams Lovelace at 918-851-3066
VOC New Topic Please:
Electing the new Seat A of the National Council. What to look for in candidates.
It has come to my attention that within the last 15 years, the Muscogee (Creek) Nation keeps electing National Council members based on what they can do for them and not how they will help the entire Nation. Since 2011, the National Council is elected by the entire Nation and not by their respective district, an attempt to return the voting rights back to the districts has failed twice.
In looking at potential candidates, please listen to what they will do for all citizens and not just a select few.
Candidates that only care about the betterment of the entire nation and who believe in fairness, progress and inclusion should be the ones who the citizens vote for, in my opinion.
Please really consider who you are voting for to represent the needs, concerns and issues of the people of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation to legislate on behalf of the citizens, employees, and patients. The National Council are individuals elected to legislate matters on behalf of the Nation. It is their constitutional duty to pass legislation and structure laws that benefit the citizens.
The National Council are not social workers, licensed councilors, legal staff on behalf of the Nation, Probate employees, Directors/Managers of the various Departments at Creek Nation and they are not THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT.
Please elect the individuals you believe who will legislate and be legislators. They cannot dictate to the Executive Branch and they cannot go in and change everything the Executive Branch has done in the last four years. They cannot fire anyone nor can they hire someone unless they are to work directly for the Council or they are appointed by the Principal Chief.
It’s time we elect true a true legislative branch.
Curiosity: How and who chooses the Parade Grand Marshal ? Do you have to be a friend of George Tiger? Do you have to donate more than a certain amount of dollars to a political campaign? Do you have to fete the Chief at your house for lunches and dinners? ELI GRAYSON was the Grand Marshal Saturday. If he was chosen for all the things he has done for the good of the general Creek public, I don’t see what Grayson has done or accomplished EXCEPT to push his own agendas – not for the Creek Nation. Is there anyone that can clarify this for us if we are wrong? It’s possible we don’t know what he has done for the honor.
New topic as requested.
Reflecting this morning on the past three years of our tribal government, where it was before and the direction our leaders have chosen for our people. Attended the festival last night and spent time observing our people and realizing that so many there have no idea of the path they are traveling, not by their choice but by choice of the elected officials.
Submitted on 2015/06/15 at 8:06 PM
New Topic, please. VOC, please feel free to add more.
Who is responsible for our economic plateau? The Secretary of the Nation: Bill Fife.
New Topic Please
THIS IS THE LAST MONTH!!!
Filing period is July – a mere 6 weeks away.
Tiger already has billboards around the nation and has unlimited funds and power to make himself Chief again.
Thomas Yahola is a five-time loser, Adam Jones is a Georgie Boy and David Nichols is our last hope.
If David Nichols doesn’t show any influence on the National Council at this months meeting we are doomed.
The “Campaign Reform” legislation has one last chance at this months meeting. The money is flowing into Tiger’s campaign from the cheaters and outsiders that Tiger is beholding to.
David Nichols needs to show some fierce defense for our citizens against this money hungry, lying, stealing, conspirator, manipulator, cheating, embezzling, treasonous, adulterer named George Tiger – NOW.
New Topic Please
Why doesn’t someone start an impeachment on the Attorney General. Per MCN Law, any appointed official, Supreme Court Justice and District Court Judge can be impeached just like it is outlined in the Constitution. Can’t go after George, then go after the next one in line, Roger Wiley.
Will you add this new post?
10th Annual Day-Ohn-Day 5k Run & Walk
In past years Creek Nation paid the entry fees for citizens to participate in this program. I don’t know what the fees were in previous years, but the fees for this year were:
5k & 1 mile ($25 w/shirt and $20 without shirt) (Race day $30)
10k ($30 w/shirt and $25 without shirt) (Race day $35)
Prior to this year entry fees were paid by Creek Nation for 100 Creek citizens. However, on May 23, 2015 there were only 9 Creek Nation citizens who participated. These people paid their own entry fee.
What happened this year? Why did George not fund Run & Walk?
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Why does THIEF Tiger continue to lie to Creek Citizens? He will do anything to put dollars in his own pocket.
To VOC: Please make a new topic for this. Thank you.
On 5/20/15, Tulsa World’s front page (by Bill Haisten), George made his 2nd or 3rd response to our petition drive. Some of the things said:: It did not break his spirit. Challenges him to look at how we can improve things. Doesn’t look at it as a negative thing. Looks at it as a motivational thing. Had utmost faith in the process & believes the small group that was behind the petition – even though it didn’t garner enough signatures – have a right to do that & respects that. Looks forward to working as an advocate (advocate for what or who?) & most of all as a Muscogee citizen, he was a citizen before he was an elected official. (Is he no longer a citizen?)
RESPONSES MCRP GROUP haven’t seen or heard from George about our allegations, for which we still want answers (MVSKOKE WAY):
TREASON BRIBERY EMBEZZLEMENT FROM OKMULGEE IND. COMMUNITY
VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ILLEGAL CHRISTMAS MONEY FROM BRISTOW IND. COMM.
NEPOTISM IN HIS EMPLOYEE HIRES
TERMINATIONS OF EMPLOYEES SEXUAL HARASSMENT INTERFERENCE W/CASINO MANGERS (INVOLVING STEPDAUGHTER & SON-in-LAW)
Although the following were not included in our petition, employees have related to us that George Tiger’s Administration gave notice that they were not to sign the petition (intimidation). Employees were also notified they were NOT TO TALK TO ANY NATIONAL COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVES. (illegal as any & all citizens have access to any NC Rep for any reason.) George Tiger nor anyone else had access to any final petitions with signatures. (Intimidation by scare tactic.)
To VOC: Will you please do this new topic?
COME ON EMPLOYEES. A LOT OF YOU HAVE TOLD US PETITION PEOPLE THAT YOU WERE AFRAID TO SIGN, BUT YOU WILL AT THE END OF THE 60 DAYS.
BELIEVE THE EMPLOYEE PROTECTION LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED BY THE COUNCIL. GEORGE DID VETO IT, BUT THE COUNCIL OVER-RODE THE VETO, SO IT IS NOW LAW. YOU NOW KNOW WHAT GEORGE THINKS OF THE EMPLOYEES. YOU DO HAVE PROTECTION EVEN IF GEORGE DIDN’T WANT YOU TO HAVE IT.
WELL, THE PETITION DAYS ARE NOW AT THE END. SATURDAY/SUNDAY WILL BE THE LAST DAYS. IF WE HAVE ENOUGH SIGNATURES, THE PETITIONS WILL BE TURNED OVER TO THE COUNCIL ON MONDAY, 5/18/2015.
CALL SHELLY AT 918-814-7513 & she can direct you to a petitioner.
THIS WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION:
At today’s Special hearing, Roger was sentenced to 2-1/2 yrs. in Federal prison, and some restitution.
Let’s hope he appeared to get a lighter sentence because he didn’t keep things to himself, if you know what that could mean.
When we get more information, it will be posted.
Or if any of you also have any information, please post.