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Election Results

Creek District

Candidate Votes Percentage
PATRICK FREEMAN JR. 1978 62.30 %
GEORGE TIGER 1197 37.70 %

Tulsa District

LUCIAN TIGER III 1827 57.87 %
CHERRAH GILES 1330 42.13 %

Okmulgee District

JAMES JENNINGS 1648 51.86 %

Okfuskee District

TRAVIS SCOTT 1786 56.64 %


EDWIN MARSHAL 761 24.11 %

Karma is a bitch.


So, you all know George by now. Based on his past allegations this is what his statements are saying if you read between the lines:

Leader of financial ruin with manipulation skills and lots of wisdom to line his own pockets.

Puts himself first in funding priorities

Protects his individual sovereignty from aggressors

Served previously for his personal enrichment

Loyalty to himself regardless of anything else

Leadership at the state, regional, and national levels have not been in the best interest of citizens

Lacking trust among others and especially Washington DC

Guarantees that citizens have someone knowledgeable enough to manipulate the MCN constitution, laws and policies

Delays progress himself even with all the experience he has just to save himself

Wants a progressive future for himself.

MCN is still trying to get out of the financial hole he made. There may not be a tribe if he gets elected


  1. Tiger says, “This vote is critical for our Nation’s future.”
    IT IS CRITICAL for our Nation that he is not put in any position of the Nation.
  2. Tiger says, “Experience allows for progress.”
    He is progressive in signing contracts with people willing to pay him for his illegal services.
  3. Tiger says, “He believes in a progressive future.”
    Progressiveness like the bankrupt hospital in Okmulgee, no road to the hospital in Okemah, bankrupt restaurant at the Okmulgee Country Club, no Rex’s Chicken the tribe paid for and more and more shady deals with money paid directly to him. Asking vendors to raise the price of services to pocket money himself.


  1. Tiger says, “I will fight to put our citizens first in funding priorities.”
    The only people who ever received funding priorities were his step-children, wife, and himself.
  2. Tiger says, “He will protect our Sovereignty from aggressive attacks by State and Federal governments.”
    He was willing to give our sovereignty to another tribe so they could build a casino within our boundaries. He has fought for that for over ten years and will do it again.
  3. GT says, “He will not be a rubber stamp with loyalty to the citizens not inside political special interests.”
    What a laugh. He promised communities that he would bring back the 50/50 casino money split and didn’t get it done. Why? Because NIGC said it would shut down all our casinos and he knew that when he promised it. The only people that profited from him were special friends, inside and outside the nation and his family.
  4. GT says, “He held leadership at the State, Regional and National levels.”
    George Tiger was not allowed to meet President Obama with other Chiefs because he COULD NOT PASS A BACKGROUND CHECK. He may fool small tribes in Oklahoma talking out of both sides of his mouth but not everyone falls for his lies.
  5. GT says, “He is a trusted voice of MCN and Indian Country in Oklahoma City and Washington, DC on important tribal issues.”
    NO ONE TRUSTS GEORGE TIGER. He cares about himself, we are embarrassed that we elected him for any position because of his personal indiscretions and stealing from us since 1995.

So make yourself aware of those that don’t walk their talk.


Recycling Council Members

It’s time that the Tribe moves into a more productive and positive light. This will work if we, the Tribal members, move out of the poverty mentality that holds many down. We, as Native people are equipped with the spirit of survival, as we have proven time and time again throughout history. Let’s take that a step further by believing in ourselves that we can accomplish much if we have our minds and hearts aligned for the good of all. We Natives need to realize that the only thing holding us back from achieving success in this life is ourselves. By changing our thoughts about our capacity to do better we all move forward. We cannot allow what our ancestors fought for die by living a life of divide and conquer and self-serving. We are better than that. We must be examples for that Seventh Generation that is ready to take the lead NOW.

I believe that by allowing politicians to be recycled from one election to the next one, we are hindering new faces and young people with the intellectual vigor and vision from playing important roles in the Nation’s government and development. It is time to hand over the torch to the Seventh Generation. One of the many ways council members can help the tribe is to mentor other citizens instead of running for council each election. If we don’t do something, these young people will be ill prepared for the task of leading our tribe after the recycled politicians are no more. Many may also not come back to the Nation because no one cared enough to mentor them to be our leaders of tomorrow. Many are losing their tribal identity.

I believe today we find ourselves stuck with leaders who have been recycled time and time again because they have become greedy, their desire for power and money have overcome their sense of loyalty to the Nation and all its people. We cannot continue recycling political figures at the exclusion of new younger faces. It may be hard for some to let go and let the Seventh Generation lead, but it is imperative to our survival as a strong, competent and independent Nation.

I find much to admire about some council members. Some are smart and work well with the other branches of our government and want to help Tribal members. But some should not run again. They have been in office too long. It’s time to give someone else a chance in this major position of influence and power. The names listed in RED are the current Incumbents or have been on the council in previously.

Creek District Tony Bell
Patrick Freeman Jr.
George Tiger
Muskogee District Joyce C. Deere (Incumbent)
Jessina Brown
Eddie LaGrone
McIntosh District Adam Jones III (Incumbent)
Tom O. Pickering
Okfuskee District Frank Coachman
Sandra Golden
Mitch Jack (Incumbent)
Travis Scott
Percy Dug Sharp
Okmulgee District James Jennings (Incumbent)
Carmin Tecumseh Williams
Grover D. Wind
Herod Anderson
Brenda Golden
Larissa Jack Melton
Cynthia Mae Tiger
Tulsa District

Cherrah Giles
Samuel S. Alexander
Lucian A. Tiger III (Incumbent)
Tukvpvtce District


David Jimboy
Mary J. Givens
Jeremiah Hobia
Edwin Marshall
Thomasene Yahola Osborn
Wagoner, Rogers and Mayes District Mark J. Randolph (Incumbent)
Timothy Jackson Jr.



More Filings on Last Day

Per your request, here are the filings for today.

McIntosh District

  1. Adam Jones III (Incumbent)
  2. Tom O. Pickering

Muskogee District

  • Jessina Brown
  • Eddie LaGrone

Okfuskee District

  • Mitch Jack (Incumbent)
  • Travis Scott

Okmulgee District

  • Herod Anderson
  • Brenda Golden
  • Larissa Jack Melton
  • Cynthia Mae Tiger

Tulsa District

  • Samuel S. Alexander
  • Lucian A. Tiger III (Incumbent)

Tukvpvtce District

  • Mary J. Givens
  • Jeremiah Hobia
  • Edwin Marshall
  • Thomasene Yahola Osborn

Wagoner, Rogers, Mayes District

  • Timothy Jackson Jr.

He’s Back. JUST ASK FOR IT!!

From now through the general election anything goes with the National Council.  If a citizen wants it, they will get it, especially if they have a large family of voters.
The Council will be giving away swimming pools, vans, cars, houses, tuition for modeling school, braces for kids to have a better smile, ramps for elders,increase the school clothing allowance and the promises you will hear, oh the promises.
George Tiger and his buddy Cherrah will promise you the moon.  Don’t forget that Mrs. Giles quit the National Council for a high paying job with George.
Chief Floyd won’t veto anything.  If George Tiger gets elected, Chief Floyd may as well stay home because nothing will get done.


Council Filings as of 7/18

Creek District

  • Tony Bell
  • Patrick Freeman Jr.
  • George P. Tiger

Muskogee District

  • Joyce C. Deere (Incumbent)

Okfuskee District

  • Frank Coachman
  • Sandra Golden

Okmulgee District

  • James Jennings (Incumbent)
  • Carmin Tecumseh Williams
  • Grover D. Wind

Tulsa District

  • Cherrah Giles

 Okfuskee District

  • Percy Dug Sharp

Tukvpvtce District

  • David Jimboy

Wagoner, Rogers and Mayes District

  • Mark J. Randolph (Incumbent)


Lucian Tiger

After portraying himself as an upstanding citizen and an all-around family man, the hypocrisy of Lucian Tiger knows no bounds. Hidden beneath the façade of an upstanding human being and caring parent is a man looking-out only for his own interest and ego. He is manipulative and devious, typically to gain advancement of his own agenda. He has and continues to parade children in front of others for political gain. Self-centered popularity is the most shameful and disgusting deed a man can do. Shame on him! He should not be using children as pawns for his personal and political gain. And what about his child that is due in August? Will he do as George Tiger  did with his children, that is not be supportive and not raise
them? He and George act like brothers.

Source: the Onion, an underground website

WASHINGTON—Responding to a damning Washington Post report alleging he had shared highly classified information with Russian officials, President Donald Trump addressed the concerns of the press, his fellow government officials, and the public at large Tuesday by announcing that he was an incredibly stupid human being. “I am a big idiot,” said the president, adding that the reason he always messes everything up is that he is a dumb moron who doesn’t know better. “I do a lot of things that don’t make sense and are bad, and that’s because I don’t understand much. If I was smart, I would do stuff better, but I’m not. I’m really, really stupid.” The commander in chief added that it was probably best if somebody stopped him from doing dumb things all the time because he was too stupid to know how.

RedStone Construction Company

George Tiger’s son-in-law, Chris Samples’ RedStone Construction Company is moving operational resources to affiliated construction teams in Dallas,  Texas; Boston, Massachusetts;  and Chattanooga, Tennessee. The Tulsa office will remain.


Ranch Property

Property was up for auction by Dr Robert Zoellner earlier this month. He did not get the price he wanted so he refused all bids.  Rumor is that a deal has been worked with MCN for 2.5 million after 6 months has passed so that the doc does not have to pay a commission to the auction company.

2.5 mil would have built or repaired a lot of homes for citizens and the money is critically needed to do so. MCN should be spending money on other necessities and besides that, I was under the impression that the tribe is not in good financial shape to take on more debt.

What have these Council Members done for Citizens?

Lucian Tiger III            Tulsa District – Seat B
Dode W. Barnett         Creek District – Seat B
Adam Jones III             Mcintosh District – Seat B
Joyce C. Deere             Muskogee District – Seat B
Mitch Jack                       Okfuskee District – Seat B
James Jennings             Okmulgee District – Seat B
Thomas Yahola             Tukvpvtce District – Seat B
Mark Randolph             Wagoner/Roger/Mayes District – Seat B


Questions for MCN Government

(If this tribal citizen wants answers to the following questions, then there may be others who would also like clarification.)

Lets talk money

Let us begin to explore where the money comes from and where the money actually is expended visit this site.

  1. Where does the money come from for Creek Nation to   invest in businesses?
  2. What is the source of funds for the “permanent fund”?
  3. How was the “permanent fund” created?
  4.  Who was the brains behind the “Mackey Site” gaming?
  5. What Committee of the National Council studies the “business plan” before any business passes to the buy stage?
  6. Who are the people now serving in management positions at Creek Nation with business education or experience?

Work For The Tribe

In reply to One who cares.
new topic request

Employee performance improvement needed

One thing that Chief needs to do, Floyd and those that come next after him, is look at each employee for what they offer and the work they do. Many of us work for the tribe, not as part of the Floyd administration or the Tiger administration or the Ellis administration. We are there to work for the tribe whoever the Chief is. But when a new administration comes in we’re all seen as being part of the other’s group. Some of us aren’t part of a group. Some of us just want to do the right thing, work hard, have good service for tribal members, do our part to make things better. But that is not being considered when deciding on employees at creek nation. This seems to happen with each election. There are some people that work for the tribe that are really good workers and mean well. There are others that are there just to get a check and do as little work as possible. We all know someone like that. They make excuses why work is not done, they blame others, they think they shouldn’t have so much to do, they think the work isn’t needed because it doesn’t matter or its not important, you see them talking with others or on their cell phones more than at their desk working, they just complain when they don’t get their way. Other employees are in the middle, do just enough to get by and then lay low to not get noticed. Chief, please set a new and higher standard for employees, even those that may be family or friends of the administration. Each department should have a way to have evaluations from the citizens, whether on paper or online. I don’t mind if someone reviews me. I know I work hard. If problems come up, talk with managers and get things going in a more positive direction. Maybe its a training issue, maybe its an expectation issue. We expect more as citizens and those that are hard working employees, and I think we deserve it.


Community Clinic Services

New Topic Please:

Received a letter yesterday that reads: “effective immediately Muscogee (Creek) Nation Department of Health will no longer be providing Community Clinic services.”
The letter provides a list of nine doctors and one clinic in Henryetta & Okmulgee for us to contact.
Do we have to choose another Doctor now? We won’t have a clinic in Okmulgee any longer?

Nation is well on the way success

A new topic was NOT requested, but I feel this response needs a new post generic for cialis.

The current elected and appointed administration of Principal Chief James Floyd needs and deserves the full support of all citizens.
The previous group placed in charge by less than .0075 of the current Creek Tribal membership made such a horrible mess due to greed, lack of ability and overall ignorance that James Floyd was faced with quite a mess.
Never should we allow such to occur.
Always examine credentials, education, work history, and overall personal habits before electing anyone!
This nation is well on the way success, but four years of numbskull administrative decisions cannot be corrected overnight.

John Wick: Chapter 2(2017)

Quality : HD
Title : John Wick: Chapter 2
Director : Chad Stahelski.
Writer :
Release : 2017-02-08
Language : English.
Runtime : 122 min.
Genre : Thriller, Action, Crime.

Synopsis :
Movie ‘John Wick: Chapter 2’ was released in February 8, 2017 in genre Thriller. Chad Stahelski was directed this movie and starring by Keanu Reeves. This movie tell story about John Wick is forced out of retirement by a former associate looking to seize control of a shadowy international assassins’ guild. Bound by a blood oath to aid him, Wick travels to Rome and does battle against some of the world’s most dangerous killers.