Muscogee Creek Removal Facebook Comments

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 Lanissa Jack Melton‘s post.
July 18 at 8:05pm ·

Lanissa Jack Melton
Went to a listening session last night. Hosted by the Muscogee Creek Nation, held in Beggs. I didn’t know about the meeting until Sunday by a city council. Then the city council member announced it at the monthly meeting to the city of Beggs. Two individuals who are not from the city of Beggs named Charlene Adams Lovelace and Eli Grayson was responsible for the meeting. They were both asked if they were the spokesperson for the city. Charlene Lovelace said that she would be the contact person. The meeting started out to be informational. Employees gave their speeches. Questions were asked and answered if possible. During the beginning of the meeting a man asked a question then a woman who let them use the church Said “SHUT UP” out loud to the man. I sat in the far back of the room and clearly heard her say that in church in Gods house. How rude and disrespectful. At that moment I felt uncomfortable. Towards the end the two individuals wanted to have another meeting at the same church. I stood up waving my hand for 10 minutes kept clearing my throat to be recognized. Finally a gentleman said just talk. I didn’t want to be rude. So when I did I suggested that we should have it at a centralized location such as the city hall or the community center. Eli Grayson stood up and said loud and clear “This Meeting Is For All Muscogee Creek Citizens” I was stunned by that comment. I am half Muscogee Creek and half non-Indian. Who is traditional, culturally oriented, and speaks the language. A lady in front of me said what is that suppose to mean. At that moment I was discriminated against. Apparently I wasn’t dark enough to be at the meeting that was held by the Muscogee Creek Nation. My own tribe with a roll number. No one even corrected him. Not even the Principal Chief. This is not our culture we are to respect one another especially women. We are maternal lineage. Eli Grayson has been verbally abusive and aggressive to our people. This is not right. I am livid and nor have I ever been disgraced in a public setting. Individuals from this city came up and apologized to me for his behavior and said that he doesn’t belong in this town nor does he live in this town. They said he might have some family in this town, but not enough to make a difference. They stated that they voted me in as a city council member and being rude and disrespectful to our city council representatives is uncalled for. citizens said that was clearly racist and at the upmost disrespectful. Who came into this town and barely advertised the meeting.
This has been on my mind all day. Tell me what you think.

Yahola Simms
Eli was raised as a Jew by his father who was ashamed to be Native. This is what Eli told me years ago. Since then he has made threats to sue me for defamation. He disrespectfully told me to get a job when I was going to the University as an adult for my Doctorate in Psychology. He thought he could hurt me that way with ridiculous and slanderous put downs, even when I was completing my dream of education after leaving the Marine Corp and living with PTSD, Dyslexia, and ADHD as obstacles. His insensitivity to the plight of Muscogee Citizens with disadvantages below his self-acclaimed financial stature is arrogantly displayed in his community posturing as a savior to us lowlife impoverished ignorant Indians.
He never lived the lifestyle of a Muscogee citizen growing up, yet he has come into the Muscogee Nation in my opinion as a elitist and a person a step above most citizens. He has referred to the Muscogee people in general as racists in some of his talks when he was in California. This because of his agenda with the Freedmen. He even spoke of George as a liar and a thief when he ran his first race as Chief. His money is his strength and certainly not his humility and values as a Creek Gentleman/whatever gender he identifies with. I have no respect for this person and how he is able to charm his way next to our more affluent citizens seems to be a pattern he sets for himself. Besides being disingenuous regarding his personal agenda to manage our Nation from the sidelines he has become George Tigers confidant. He has intelligent concepts yet acts out with narcissistic rage if you disagree with him. He is the epitome of a lateral oppressor. Eli Grayson is not a friend of the Muscogee People in my opinion. He should have entered the Muscogee Nation sideways with humility and showing respect. Instead he came amongst us with a self-aggrandizing motive. I do not trust him and I look forward to the day I confront him in public amongst our citizens. We’ll see if he shouts this Proud Native Muscogee Citizen down…

Charles Ferguson
Let me add my FB conversation to what you have to say cuz.
Conversation started August 4, 2012
You are no principal chief; you are merely a wannabe. My Great Uncle was Principal Chief in 1979. your heritage club is likened to the Yemassee Negros thinking they are Redman.

Eli Grayson8/4, 11:08pm
who the fuck are you…are you NUTTS…

Eli Grayson
8/5, 3:46pm
listen you fucking idiot, I dont and anyone else dont gives a rats ass about you are your supposedly ancestry…NO ONE CARES but you…and if you do have Mvskoke ancestry I will tell you they are quite embarrassed to have a descendant like you…you RACIST FUCK! YOU ARE AN EMBASSEMENT TO INDIAN PEOPLE…but I doubt if you are because no MVSKOKE act like your stupid ass…GO TAKE YOUR PROZAX FOOL…one other thing, you dont have any clue you creap who was the first elected chief of the Creeks….that would have been more than a thousand years ago…learn the dang history before you show how ignorant you are…

Eli Grayson
8/5, 8:15pm
oh…now that’s explains it…Cox’s sperm…show did express me with him…lol…its amazing you actually know how to use your brain and fingers for typing…I do believe their is civil war museum looking for relics to hang around like you…Charles just in a few words from you, I can tell you are an embarrassment to your family…the loser in the family so to speak, shzt even Claude had a little common sense…but you, a mouth and brain with no intelligence whats so ever…Im going to copy these messages and place them on my face book so that other tribal members can be aware of your crazy insane ass….cant wait for Buddy Cox to see this….he would probaly say you are just off your medication…you know the ole saying sometimes you feel like a nut, will Im sure its all the time for you…lol

Charles Ferguson
8/5, 8:35pm
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Charles Ferguson
Grayson called himself chief of the Creeks in California.

Charles Ferguson
This is his agenda, wannabe. How many Creek can there be in California and where is the headquarters of his chiefdom located. What form of govt. did he oversee as wannabe chief?

 Yahola Simms
Making derogatory statements regarding Our past Chief/Uncle is unsettling. Grayson is not worth your anger nor your debate. If he didn’t have money and people to pay to think for him he would have no intelligent thought to convey. I mentioned he has intelligent ideas. I didn’t mention they were probably his lawyers ideas. Whatever the case may be he had no right in hell speaking to you my relative in that way. I’m sure his cancer will eat his vile embodiment soon. The Muscogee/Yuchi people are strong. Let Eli dig his own grave.

 Yahola Simms
Eli likes to bully people. Mostly weak frightened people. Creek men need to step up and stop this guy. He has been spewing vile vulgar threats to many for way too long. He is shrouded in good deeds that draw big attention like the true NPD he is. NPD’s need attention and lots of it. If you cross them they punish you severely. He himself is a racist.


18 thoughts on “Muscogee Creek Removal Facebook Comments”

  1. Someone brought it to my attention that Mr. Grayson made a comment on his Facebook page about some people has never been around “Injuns” before. I hope this isn’t true and if it is, it shows how much he hasn’t been around Natives himself. To me and many other Natives, “injuns” is just as derogatory as the “N” word to African American. I’m sure Mr. Grayson will enlighten us what he meant by this if he indeed posted it.

  2. People, don’t waste your energy on an idiot. I have to remind myself, he didn’t grow up Creek, never lived Creek, he knows nothing about being Creek. He certainly doesn’t act Creek. He’s one of the “new age” Creeks. He’s acting like he’s straight out of Compton. He needs to go back! You can take a person outta the ghetto but you can never take the ghetto out of a person. He needs help and there’s no sense in arguing with an irrational person.

  3. Wow.
    That Molly Moore has a mouth on her. She hates anyone that doesn’t support her Daddy George.

    Truth be known she doesn’t give a rats rear about George Tiger, she just wants her family and herself to keep their CREATED HIGH PAYING jobs at our tribe.

    How could she care about George Tiger after he has humiliated her Mother and MCN?

    1. She was on there commenting yesterday when she should be working. Of course I guess she should actually GO to work to be working. Must be nice to collect a paycheck at home.

      How does anyone with a work ethic support Tiger and how he allows his family and allies to not show up for work yet collect a paycheck.

  4. Just a reminder to the Creek voters. Alexis Crosley, the candidate filed for Tulsa District is sister to Ruth Bible and is a friend of Eli Grayson.
    Don’t bash her on this site, but when the time comes, let’s remind all of them what it means to be disrespectful to Creek women, elders, and veterans. Get out and vote!

    1. To anonymous,
      I am my own person! My sister is not my reflection, nor am I hers. She is her own individual person, as I am! I have MY OWN enemies and friends, she has hers!
      And I hope everyone votes by what is “good for the tribe” and NOT by who they are related to! If that’s the case, we’re all in trouble…..

  5. Since when does the actions of the Parents make the child take the blame. The child does not chose their parents. The Father choose the woman who will be the mother of his child, the Mother choose the man she wants to be the father of her child, the child does not get a choice. Children do not control the actions of their parents. The parents decide how the children will be raised.
    Who gets to decides what a lifestyle of a Musogee Citizen is. Is it the Creek parents that take thier children to Creek churches. Is it the Creek parents who chose to take their Children to the Ceremonial Grounds. What about the children of Creek parents with alcohol addiction who took them to either church nor ceremonial grounds. What about all the Creek children that went to Boarding School and did not stay with their families. What about all the parents that took part in the relocation program. All the children were not given choices as to what they wanted. Now that they are adults and have a choice, why not welcome them to experience what was denied to them as children through no fault of their own.

  6. I also have instant messaging from Eli calling me a racist, a Bitch or Witch he said I could choose. I am the petitioner who filed the removal of George Tiger. Eli attacked me because all I did was post the listening/campaigning meeting in Beggs. You can go and read what I posted on the Facebook “Muscogee Creek Removal Petition” page. I never said anything about any race. He used the F**king word toward me. And said I could kiss his red ass!!! The other person he attacked is a very special person in my life, my mentor who is a full creek citizen and a veteran that reads, writes and speaks our Creek language. Then he got his caregiver in on it; calling me and June Mustari shit stirrers. June sat on the business and community board for Tulsa community, the gaming board, and sat on the constitution commission board. And Eli wants to call her very derogatory names and attack our characters. Which again I want to state very clearly that I nor June never said anything about non-creeks. His platform is to recognize the Freedmen. Yes, we have freedmen creeks. But if you can’t prove the blood, then you are not a creek citizen. Eli also wants the blood quantum lowered. If you remember when we had the constitution convention and it was on the ballot to lower the quantum it was voted NO!!! And it was one of our large voting outcome. Yes I have talked to Dr. Yahola Simms and he even told me how Eli degraded the Muscogee Creek people when he was in California. He said we were stupid poor and dirt farmers. But this is a man going around now wearing a hat that says chief non the back. I have contacted the D.A in Tulsa and will be meeting with him and will provide all the messages Eli has said and sent me. If anyone didn’t know its cyber bullying me. It is a Felony. He also stated I needed psychiatric help and he’d make me an appointment at Laureate Psychiatric Clinic. All I did was try to be knowledgeable on the things wrong with the nation. Yes, we have started a group open to all creeks who would like to be a part of this group to let your voice be heard. It is called “Muscogee Creek people movement.” I only still use the removal page on FB until our website is up to voice my opinion and freedom of speech. Eli is George’s mouthpiece. This man sent a family member to my home to tell me if I would run for an office he would pay and endorse me because our group is powerful and the media contacts I have. All I am going to say I am not a racist nor hateful. All the information I have shared is on the petition removal page. Ii is true that I do my research and I will not or ever let it out where my information comes from. I will protect my sources. Mvto, I have no respect for anyone who attacks my fellow citizens all became they don’t agree with disrespecting elders or women and veterans.

    1. First, I DON’T know you and it was NOT you I was calling a “shit stirrer”! But this is the second time you accused people of calling you names, what’s that about??
      2) I don’t know you, but I do know the persons I was referring to!! I’ve dealt with both of them first hand!
      3) I call it like it is! Always have, always will!
      4) I was at the Beggs listening meeting sitting in the back of the church. It did not happen like a certain individual posted!

      And last but not least I’m also very protective of my family/friends too!
      Yes, I have been Eli’s Caregiver, we have been friends since 2003. But I think Eli can fight his own battles. I will call bullshit that I see with MY OWN eyes and hear with MY OWN ears. But I will say I have my own mind, I speak freely. If you’re good friends with A.D. Ellis ask A.D. He knows me pretty good! He also knows what his wife Gail and hateful June put me thru when I worked for him. She accused every woman in the tribe of having an affair with him, and the hateful one did NOT know me but went on what Gail said and June told me the only reason I was in my position was because A.D. owed me a favor for helping with his campaign. I was working in Communications before A.D. was chief. So there were no favors involved. When I took the job in his office, the only reason I took it was because he told me he needed to surrounded by those that he could trust. I was ready to go back to Communications by Friday of the first week after seeing all the backstabbing I witnessed there. It took a couple of months but I did get back to Communications (for the 9-years, until 2012) I thought he was a good person as Second Chief, I referred a lot of citizens to him and he helped them, is why I supported him, end of story! And yes, I tolerated Gail as Chief’s wife his entire terms, even after he was out of office! But I always remembered it was her insecurities that started YOUR mentor’s hateful attitude toward me and now I don’t have to put up with either of their crap!! I’m not an employee of the tribe anymore so I don’t have to play nice to either one anymore!
      So Shelly as protective as you of yours, so am I!!
      Now after all….didn’t this crap start over a stupid FB post? I see crap posted all the time, I don’t agree or like it I scroll on!!

      1. Did….George put you thru any hard times…. When he fired you for no reason and gave Johnna your job? Which resulted in poor Johnna have alergic reaction to the yucky mold in that building resulting in it being vacated? Resulting in her move to tourism resulting in her getting fired after the affair resulting Molly getting the job resulting in Johnna becoming a consultant thru housing paid by Mr fox? Resulting in Johnna a home and a payoff? Molly’s job resulted in. Hooking up with Will causing him a divorce resulting getting her sister a job resulting in her getting knocked up by red stone owner resulting in red stone getting All the jobs….All because you didn’t support George! Thanks Ruth. Thanks A Lot. Had it not been for you publicly speaking out about what a thief George was all these peoples lives wouldn’t have flourished like they did…kudos. Your more of a man than I thought you were.

      2. Looks like we need more shit stirrers…..what about the commercial on tv that shows the new strip mall that the MCN owns in Jenks….look closely at the commercial…. you can see thru all the store fronts to the trees in the back of the building…..nothing but a skeleton …..looks like there’s plenty shit that needs stirring….

  7. Wow! I had no idea Eli talked such awful language. He is a big supporter of Freedmen. Here’s my thought, if you were CONCEIVED with at least one parent being of Creek blood, you are Creek. Either you have Creek blood in you or you don’t. It’s like me being adopted by a Freedmen and claiming I have Freedmen blood! It’s not being racist. It’s common sense.

  8. Whenever Creeks talk about the Removal and the long walk, one the first topics is that a majority of the Creek women were raped by the U.S. Soliders. Whatever happed to these mixed blood babies born the Creek women that were raped? Are we a nation of baby killers? No! These mixed blood babies were raised a Creeks no matter what blood was in them. But to now hear that some Creeks are claiming that all Creeks are full blood and these rapes never happened. The only way to prove you are a true full blood is to have a DNA test done to prove how much Creek blood you actuality have. (DNA testing is affordable now) Have yourself documented by a DNA test so that the next time you say you are full blood you will have written proof that you are full blood and not just family heresay evidence. Remember: Momma’s baby, Poppa’s maybe!!

  9. Is this the same man that Chief Tiger honored by putting him in the “MCN Hall of Fame” and was “Grand Marshall” at this years Festival Parade?

    Chief Tiger choice in people to portray the “Mvskoke Way” to the public is very questionable.

    1. Same man. He was also selected to be one of the judges in the Miss Mvscogee contest.

      The “honors” that George has given are some kind of pay-backs.

      1. People, don’t waste your energy on an idiot. I have to remind myself, he didn’t grow up Creek, never lived Creek, he knows nothing about being Creek. He certainly doesn’t act Creek. He’s not Creek, he’s a black man straight out of Compton & needs to go back! You can take a person outta the ghetto but you can never take the ghetto out of a person. He needs help and there’s no sense in arguing with an irrational person. For those of you who support this idiot, you better think twice about associating with him.

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