FORUMS - SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO ASK
AT THESE FORUMS, IF WE'RE ALLOWED, SOME OF US CITIZENS HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO ASK THE CANDIDATES.
What are direct questions you are willing to ask, if you're allowed?
In the past, I know a couple of Communities allowed only their members to ask questions. With this campaign, that should NOT be the case.
Give us your questions that you would like candidates to answer.. Go to the forums and don't be afraid to ask. I am familiar with how many of our citizens are. Even if they agree with you, they will not help you out. Why is that?
What are direct questions you are willing to ask, if you're allowed?
In the past, I know a couple of Communities allowed only their members to ask questions. With this campaign, that should NOT be the case.
Give us your questions that you would like candidates to answer.. Go to the forums and don't be afraid to ask. I am familiar with how many of our citizens are. Even if they agree with you, they will not help you out. Why is that?
A forum at a community is on Creek property owned by all Creeks all citizens have the right to be present and ask questions.
Communities can not control the questions to be asked for they are only after tribal money to give out to a select few friends and relatives.
They do not have the right to deny any citizen the right to ask a question period it would be a violation of the Indian Civil Rights Act not to speak of Freedom of Speech.
Any person who would try to prevent any citizen from asking any question should be removed from the forum by the police.
An excellent question WHY DON'T YOU FOLLOW THE ORDERS OF THE SUPREME COURT?
Why do you believe all creeks are not equal?
Will you continue to disregard our laws?
What is your qualification for the office you seek?
What is your work history?
Why have you agreed to pay all these lawyers when they have not won a lawsuit?
What do you believe the job you are seeking is supposed to accomplish.
Have you ever been charged with a crime? If so what was the crime?
Have you ever been sued? If so for what?
Do you own your home?
Do pay income taxes?
Have you ever declared bankrupcy? If so for what reason?
I could go on and on.
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Ask These:
1. DO YOU LIE & WHAT LIES HAVE YOU ALREADY TOLD US TO?
2. WOULD YOU STEAL IF YOU KNEW YOU WOULD'T GET CAUGHT?
3. ARE YOU A BACK STABBER?
4. WILL YOU UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION OF MUSCOGEE NATION?
5. WILL YOU PUT FAMILY OR FRIENDS IN JAIL IF THEY COMMIT CRIMES OR WILL YOU TRY TO HIDE THE CRIME?
6. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER INCOME IF YOU DON'T GET THIS JOB?
7. ARE YOU CAPABLE OF MAKING DECISIONS ON YOUR OWN OR WILL YOU WAIT TO SEE WHAT IS POPULAR TO THOSE WITH THE LOUD VOICES?
8. WHAT EXPERIENCE HAVE YOU HAD WITH CHILD ISSUES LIKE: NO FOOD, SHELTER, CLOTHING OR ELDER ISSUES LIKE: NO RAMP TO GET INTO THE HOUSE, NO ONE TO GIVE YOU A RIDE TO THE DOCTOR, ON THE WAITING LIST FOR MEDICAL TREATMENT OR A HOUSE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. CAN YOU HANDLE THOSE PROBLEMS OR WILL YOU RUN TO WASHINGTON D.C. AND VISIT WITH THE WHITE MAN?
9. WILL YOU WORK FOR US OR TRAVEL ALL OVER THE WORLD IN YOU NEW JET?
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OMG I CANT BELIEVE SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS.
HOW ABOUT.....
WHERE DO YOU SEE THE NATION IN 20 YRS AND IF YOU ARE NOMINATED THEN HOW CAN YOU GET US THERE
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In 20 years?
The future will take care of itself if you have an honest person in positions of leadership.
No one can predict what CN will need or where CN will be in 20 years.
Where do you personally want to be in 20 years and how are you going to get there.
It's day to day for most of us.
Five years is all anyone can try to plan for at a time unless it is for college educations for our kids.
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Alfred Berryhill has a TRUE Vision for the Muscogee (Creek) People!
Time to stop "Saying" what we need. . . . Time to take action and "Do" what we say to make our Nation GREAT once again!
1. Create More Jobs....how? First we must have an accurate count of how many of our citizens are without a job. I will hire an economist to track our unemployment rate. Our economist will also track the fiscal strength of our Nation so we can move forward with economic development that actually works.
2. Increasing Ownership of Businesses by Creek Citizens....how? By enforcing the “Buy Creek” Indian act. It needs to have ramifications for our government and tribal businesses to encourage them to utilize our Creek owned businesses. It is a shame that we have to force our businesses to utilize this program but it is the best way to show that our Citizens that own businesses can produce good work.
3. Make the Nation a Destination Place.....how? By hiring capable people that understand the interest of the public (tourists) and their fascination of Indian culture. Building a destination facility that educates about our culture and what makes us strong.
4. Creating a Business Development for Our Citizens.....how? By creating a department that will assist our clients in evaluating business ideas and providing an actual working plan to bring them into reality. Teaching our citizens how to structure a business in all areas needed to make them successful. Partnering with a Creek Citizen owned bank to provide capital for those businesses with financing to grow. Helping our Citizen business owners obtain the certifications needed to compete in the business world. I am committed to having our own Business Development Organization within the first term.
5. Increasing and Encouraging the Growth of Innovation Within Our Nation.......how? By building our own Muscogee Creek Nation Prep School in which we provide an “out of the box” education to encourage and stimulate knowledge consumption by our children and adults.
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Terrific ideas to implement.
I hope 2 things don't happen.
#1. Hope nobody steals your ideas.
#2. I hope that darn council doesn't try to stymie such forward thinking plans by not supporting certain legislation that might be needed. We're tired of that road.
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If you hear someone else repeating these ideas, then you know they were stolen from Alfred. So watch out for the ones who repeat the same information. And watch for the voting patterns on legislation.
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True vision not the same as real vision
Nothing happens until the anti-citizens members of the Council says it’s going to happen. This has always been the case, and the reason for this has always been clear, apparently to everyone but Berryhill. The Council is not going to allow anyone to push them aside, for the reason that economic independence is a direct threat to political power. The lack of jobs and citizens owned businesses is a political issue and about showing who is Boss. Listen carefully to Lena Wind: “We are the only game in town, no one else matters, we’re the boss.” (paraphrased)
Again, economic development amounts to citizens’ empowerment. An empowered citizenry is more confident and assertive and a counter force to entrenched authority that the anti-citizen majority on the council have become. They are not going to give authority to anyone who attempts to change this dynamic.
The only jobs we are going to get are those that the Council will control. They are not going to allow anyone to push them aside, especially when they have the advantage of passing legislation that allows them to make secret deals and hire people who are willing to obey their orders. All one has to do is remember T. Pickering’s so-called job/business development program. Pickering’s and the Council’s goal is the same; to manipulate the laws so they can prosper off the Nation’s wealth, or if they can‘t, neither are they going to allow citizen to benefit either.
What I don’t understand is why Berryhill doesn’t know this by now. Does he think that we have no jobs or businesses is because we have no plans, ideas, inspiration? These have nothing to do with creating jobs. Berryhill’s “True Vision” does not include how he is going to defeat the Councils way of doing business. He will have no control over his own project and the anti-citizens members of the Council will do whatever they want with it.
Berryhill is not the boss, Lena Wind says so.
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I have the utmost respect for Alfred. But, he's not a CEO of the Nation at this time his life. His health is not ready for 4-8 years of a TOUGH job. I'm thinking his entourage pushed him into running.
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Alfred does not see this reality through rose-colored glasses. This is his TRUE VISION for our people, that we return to a place where all these ideas can be fostered, nurtured and implemented during his administration. There is no doubt that the system is broken and it is up to the people to get involved and participate in making a positive change. He wants to give the people a voice and join his voice with theirs to bring to light the things that need to change and fight for that change to make our Nation strong and prosperous.
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Just another Anonymous naysayer with every reason in the world why something GOOD can't happen in the Nation. Somebody comes up with a good idea and people like you gotta come up with a reason,..WHY IT CAN'T!
Try to understand this...
We empower ourselves by VOTING people like Lena Wind OUT! Its our fault they're even in office. WE VOTED THEM IN,...WE CAN VOTE THEM OUT! Now,..you're going to insult the voters next right? LOL
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Yes, I submitted the comments on Berryhill’s vision. Mr. Anonymous, you have told a lie about me. I did not say that I was against Berryhill’s vision. I said that Berryhill’s vision was not going to happen because the Council was not going to allow it. You, on the other hand, said it was going to happen by voting it to happen. I would predict that you had nothing to do with eliminating residency voting requirements for citizens, which is going to make a huge difference in our upcoming election. If you want to be relevant and empowered, you have to do more than pull the lever. An orangutan can do that.
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The fact remains that we will continue to have the "same ole" "same ole" until we realize we can get out of the chains of the past. Unless the citizens of this nation take the courage to get rid of poor leaders and continue ridding ourselves of poor leaders you will be correct! Another way to put it, we will become a better nation the day many of us stop selling ourselves and get down to tossing bad apples out of the barrel.
People, we do have the power to change the direction of this nation, but the question is do we have the ethics to do so? Yeah Berryhill! He's got my vote!
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To all you naysayers about Berryhill, he is a capable candidate. The only thing wrong with him is that he is too good and kind hearted. Never thought I would count those as faults and I'm not. Those characteristics go a very long way with people, and is able to turn bad to good, which is what we need.
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All great ideas. No Chief can make any changes (that cost money) without the consent of the National Council.
No disrespect to our 2nd Chief. 2nd Chief Berryhill does not know one thing about our government or how the three branches of government were meant to work.
He does however know volumes of information about our churches, songs and religious beliefs.
Maybe that's what we need now. A God fearing full blood Creek Man to lead us. Let the government take care of itself.
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I hope George is asked about his stint as Chairman of the Board of Regents of Haskell. Many of the students and alumni have a lot to tell about good ole George. They even say leaders of other tribes who voted him have nothing good to say about his actions, which sound just like the same things we know about him here in the Creek Nation. I don't ever hear any of his defenders defend him about his embezzling and lying, among other things. And why is he so quiet lately? Haven't heard a peep out of him. I guess he believes he doesn't need to open his mouth since we all love him. He doesn't even have Roger's support.
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Campaign contributions have dried up as evidenced by signage and meaningful pamphlets explaining the candidates position, if they have one.
Tiger, who killed the "Campaign Finance Act" by David Nichols, has received funds in the past, but has never been able to perform such as a "Tobacco Compact with Oklahoma" "Placing a donors restaurant in the River Spirit Casino" "Creating a competing Casino in Broken Arrow" these facts coupled with his prior actions and close association with very questionable people and a marked propensity to spend campaign donations on himself(Reason for killing of above mentioned legislation)is the reason there hasn't been a "peep" from Tiger.
Tiger is known tribal wide, state wide and nationally as a very petty, unprincipled politico. He has been a horrible role model for all Creeks and especially his own children who have problems following any laws as evidenced by their arrest record. He basically damages the Creek image everywhere he appears. He is too old to be employed by any reputable concern, cannot finish any education he has undertaken and can only feed off of the Indian and tribe.
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George Tiger passed out campaign material in Eufaula titled Experience to Lead Vision to Change.
He makes claims about his experience helping members with entrepreneurial skills BUT neglects to tell the truth about businesses he created.
He tells of the TV show he hosted BUT doesn't tell the truth about why the show was terminated.
He says he brought the LIGHT to different issues affecting Native Americans BUT doesn't tell what he enlightened or how he helped the Creek Nation HE DID HELP HIMSELF.
He said he has provided testimony to federal, state and local governments concerning the rights of the Tribe HOW TRUE he testified in Tulsa County District Court that the Creek Nation did not object to a Casino in Broken Arrow competing with our $210,000,000.00 River Spirit.
He meddled in the Creek Nation/Oklahoma Tobacco Compact resulting in NO TOBACCO COMPACT TODAY and huge fees paid to lawyers in federal and Oklahoma Courts concerning tobacco sales by the Creeks ALL HAVE BEEN LOST still no Tobacco Compact and the Creek Nation is subject to huge fines by the federal and state government.
A crowning blow came when George Tiger himself made the Motion at a Business and Government Committee meeting to KILL Campaign Ethics and Financial Reporting for Creek Officials excellent legislation authored by David Nichols and Co-Sponsored by Pete Beaver.
George Tiger's experience is not the experience Creeks need in the office of Principal Chief, he is experienced in fathering children out of wedlock, enriching himself with Indian money,and always on the look out for George Tiger.
NO GEORGE YOU ARE A TOTAL Embarrassment.
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Friends, those are NOT accusations. They happened, therefore documented. As you state, the crowning blow from George is that he led his council followers to kill the Campaign Ethics and Financial Reporting proposed legislation. Thanks Nichols and Beaver, for bringing this up to the B & G. That action by George says it all about himself. No ethics and he doesn't want anyone to know who is contributing to his coffers. It isn't your average Creek citizens.
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For as much good as all this will do,...(nobody here will have the nerve to show up and ask REAL questions) how bout;
Whats your favorite color?
Do you like your toast dry or buttered?
What kind of vehicle do you drive ? (American or foreign)
If you could have one wish,..what would you wish for ?
and saving the best for last,...does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight? LOL
Dream on Dreamers,...nothings going to change until you shut your stupid computers down and GO OUT AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE LOW LIFES AND evkvncovlke (ticks - blood-suckers - spreaders of disease...) that are raping our Nation! Vote EVERY sitting council person OUT and do it again in two years. Otherwise, they'll get fatter and more poisonous till the Nation succumbs to TICK FEVER!....(I'm just sayin,...LOL)
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Joe Blow please help us.
Besides voting, using your researching tools to see who the best person running is, and occasionally calling Council members to give them a piece of your mind, what do you do? After we shut down our “stupid computers,“ what do you want us to do when we GO OUT AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE LOW LIFES. Will you share your plan,? and more importantly, will you lead us? I’m just saying.
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Communications has received permission to broadcast tomorrow's Principal Chief forum live on the internet. Tune in to through website if you aren't able to be there in person.
If you have any questions my extension is 918-732-7638 or e-mail me at jslane@muscogeenation-nsn.gov
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VOC please publish a list of all community formums maybe time and locations thanks
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If you are an enrolled member, you should have access to the latest edition of the MCN Newspaper. They included the forum schedule for August in the latest edition of the paper. Its also on the Communication's Tribal website. Please use those resources.
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to "not a regular"
your tone seems to be that you are offended to answer a request for help. not very Mvskoke of you.
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My tone aside. Our citizens have to be less reliant on others doing things for them. This particular thing was a simple one. Just tried to let that person find the information her/him self. Don't you think that's a better way?
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re: not a regular
Gee I guess by asking for information to gathered and placed in a central location is making our citizens less reliant. When something as important as gathering information of the selection of candidates is concerned it should be the duty of every member of the Mvskoke Nation to help, direct, point and lead our members to the place to obtain that information. Not lecture them that the should dig it out themselves and not ask for help. your elitist attitude is insulting and demeaning to our citizens
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I did exactly what you are saying. As a Creek citizen, I directed, pointed and led that person to the place to obtain that information which is gathered and in a central place. On the MCN website. Where was the lecture? I think you are far too sensitive and critical..
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Unfortunately, we ran into technical difficulties with the company that handles our streaming video and so the video was not available for general viewing. I apologize for that. Either I, or the head of our IT department will be contacting them to find out what the problem was and what can be done to correct it when they open tomorrow. Of course, that doesn't help with this forum.
If anyone would like a DVD copy or would like to be notified when it is available online to be watched, please, e-mail me at jslane@muscogeenation-nsn.gov and I will be happy to work with you so.
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I would just like to know who is over whatin each department, and above them and so on. when I have a problem with the child care MAKING us risk our lives and leaving our families home alone with no water or electric to drive an hour or better to another center during ane ice storm to work in our own vehicles buying our own gas who do I call to complain to about this? Nobody seems to know or wont call you back? Why are they allowed to do this to employees yet none of the supervisers (Margret Segrist, Newman Frank , Barbra Oneil< and other'office people')have to show up? Who is over them?
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Regarding the “Chief” forum
I agree with Yogi Berri: “You can observe a lot by watching,” which is what you have to do when you attend a political forum in the Mounds Building. This is the only place where a politician can be seen and not heard, which is what they delight in doing.
A few months ago, in response to citizen complaints they were unable to hear whqt was being talked about in Council meetings, the Council paid a consultant $70, 000 to fix the problem. It was not fixed. So what gives? Did they Council intend to fix the problem, and if they did, what didn’t they? If they wanted citizens to hear what they were saying, and why did they pay a wad of money to keep us from doing that?
They didn’t fix the problem, either because they don’t know or don’t care if they did or not. If they can’t fix a very fixable problem of installing the right kind of equipment or remodeling the auditorium (a word relating to hearing: relating to the organs of hearing or the process of hearing) to make hearing speakers less of a struggle, what can they fix?
Why were they talking about how they were going to solve all of our problems--if that what they were talking about that--if they can’t solve the simple ones?
We might as well not hear them.
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Lets see, wasn't that under the direction of the council member that has all the experience in broadcasting, one Mr. George Tiger. That should tell you how George takes care of things.
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They're wasting money left and right on that pitiful sound system in that mound auditorium. I quit watching the council meetings because it became a waste of time sitting there at the computer unable to hear anything, especially comments and votes by members. I too have complained many times to different people & departments. No one accepts responsibility for the sound system. Why was it I could hear Alexander, Fife, Ridge and Dornan clearly, but not others. It is the person who controls the buttons, which is what I was finally told. And that is more apt to be true. Only those members who they wanted heard by the public.
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I've looked at the sound system, and have offered to see what I can do the improve the effectiveness of the existing system, but no one has taken me up on the offer. This was an offer to help, not asking for payment to do so. The equipment installed is not the problem, it seems to be more in the fact nobody in the nation seems to have the technical skills or experience to make the most of the system.
Maybe because I didn't ask to be paid, nobody could ask me for a cut, so why bother taking me up on the offer?
By the way, I've been in the live event, production and staging technical field for almost thirty years so I do have some expertise in this arena.
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Has anyone asked any candidate any good questions at these forums? Something to enlighten us on there they stand on certain issues? What they really think they can accomplish for the good of the Nation?
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rather than where they stand on issues, why they stand on those issues. Why they voted the way they did on those issues. In particular their votes on the confirmation of Judges that they had previously voted in favor of. What did these Justices do to lose their support.
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I was at the Forum in the Mounds Bldg.
I wrote a question but it was never read.
If they wasn't going to read it they could
have at least offered an apology before
the dismissal. I'm sure mine wasn't the
only one.
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Attended Sapulpa forum Monday night.
It was very organized and ran in a very professional and dignified manner. Very orderly.
Was not biased. All communities would do well to follow their format. Was not biased. I was very impressed.
Not all candidates did as well as others. Some appeared to have trouble formulating their thoughts and visions. Others were concise and showed forward thinking.
Judy Aaron did not fare well. Mr. Dunson and Ms. Anderson were heads above the others. Mr. Pickering stumbled on several occasions.
I only hope the remainder of forums go as well.
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Judy Aaron did remarkably well compared to Terry Anderson who wants to slaughter horses for horse food and now it's goats. Beware horse and goat owners. She also said she wants to help the communities but that does show by her voting record.
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What voting record? Terri Anderson failed to show up at numerous Council meetings. Is it her plan to show up as 2nd Chief only when it is convenient?
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do you mean by helping the communities voting for the six figure request by Eufaula, Checotah and Duck Creek. Are those the communities you are talking about.
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The communities with help from selfserving National Council members have been helping themselves to Tribal money belonging to all citizens for far too long.
Its time to vote out all current council members who vote for community special appropriations and elect a Chief who will make economic investments and put people to work.
Creek Nation should be embarassed by these raids on the treasury for people who only want a free handout.
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I will not vote for a single sitting council member running for re-election, who has voted to take tribal funds and give it back to the thieving communities.
Those communities keep saying they assist all people. Yeah, its like this. Eufaula pays people like George, Pickering, Roger and Duck Creek officials (Fife) and G. Standingbear $$$, while the tribe runs out of social service funds. With that money that actually belongs to the tribe, not to the communities, much more can be done for all the citizens of the nation, not just for friends & relatives in the community.
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Can someone put something up clarifying who supported that nation, who supported the communities with extra resources and who wasn't involved. In my mind, the Okmulgee reps (except Pearl T.), the Muskogee reps and the Tulsa/Coweta reps were on the side of the nation. McIntosh/Okfuskee/Bristow/Holdenville were all on the side of the communities. Educate me, please.
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contact one of the reps(Keeper Johnson would be a good one) that voted against funding for the casino communities, for the resolution numbers and how the council voted. I think you will surprised on the way the Okmulgee and Tulsa representatives voted more like the Creek County reps. Good Hunting
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Nichols, Jenning, Anderson, Johnson have all voted against the communities for the last 2 to 4 years. Not to mention the number of special appropriations for the elders and youth. Check their voting records.
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Keeper Johnsom, David Nichols, James Jennings and Terri Anderson were right in voting against the communities receiving casino money and special appropriations--these are just handouts of money that belongs to all Creeks and should not be used as a private method for selected council members to funnel Creek Nation money to their friends and relatives while all along the Tom Pickerings, Wilson Bears, George Tigers, and Roger Barnetts see to it that they get gifts and money for their private purposes.
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Red you are so right. I am a member of the Eufaula Community Pickering still won't say how much his immediate family made from the community paying four times what the "skating rink" was appraised for. He is a thief and liar. Selina still won't say what happened to the $2 million dollars that was passed by the council for the "ICE Plant deal with Reddy Ice company. No one has a chance to ask these questions during the so called forums. No one from here should be elected to anything.
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Keeper Johnsom, David Nichols, James Jennings and Terri Anderson are the only NC people that have done the right thing for Creek Citizens. There has been too many, yes too many personal handouts by the other NC to their families and friends. They do not have the mindset that they should be working for the entire nation and its citizens
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Where are these forums held and why aren't they being promoted?
I live in Tulsa and don't know a lot of these people and would really like to hear what they have to say.
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There are too many to list. Please look it up at the tribe's website.
www.muscogeenation-nsn.gov
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You got to be kidding,
The word is not slaughter. Its processing. And its a very viable business. Get educated and quit promoting a candidate who scared Health employees with firing the whole duration of her employment!! You might be next.
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No, the word is SLAUGHTER! calling it processing is a joke to make it sound better. Killing animals is NOT a viable business! Its taking advantage of poor defenseless animals for the sake of MONEY!!?! you ought to be ashamed of yourself for defending people who would do such a thing.
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What a silly debate over words. I like a good steak or hamburgers. I also have some buffalo and deer sausage in my freezer right this minute. They were processed. No defense, too many of us like good ole red meat.
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For the past ten years George Tiger's opposition to both the Supreme Court and the District Court of the Muscogee Nation has been well documented. A question that should be asked of Mr. Tiger, but under the format that is being used by the chairpeople of the respective Indian communities cannot be. This question and others like it cannot be asked.
MR. Tiger. There are presently Two vacancy's on the Supreme Court and one for the District Court. The National Council has failed to confirm Chief Ellis's appointees. Instead postponing(refusing to confirm) nominations until the next year when the New Chief takes office. If you are elected who are your top four prospects to fill those positions?
In the past four years there have been a number of laws and resolutions passed by the National Council, vetoed by Chief Ellis. The council has overridden some of the veto's and the bills become law and that is as it should be under our Constitution. Some of these laws still need to be reviewed for their constitutionally correctness. Remember that just because the Council passed a law it does not make it constitutionally legal. These laws will have to be reviewed by the Supreme Court and that is why it is important that we know who might be setting in judgment of these issues.
I believe that this is a fair question and deserves an answer. How about an answer on this blog site George?
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Question for Mr. Tiger. Why if you are light skinned will we be gone? Why must all Indians in your book be idenifyable to be Indian? Answer that
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