9/2/2010 6:13 PM
firstoldtimer wrote:
The new A.G. should begin by reviewing the transcripts of the testimony given during the Forensic Audits trial and, at the least, start civil actions against the people that admitted taking funds from Duck Creek (J. Fife $20,000 & Daniel Wind $40,000) through a ruse concocted by both while employed with Duck Creek. She should also seek criminal charges if applicable. She should also direct her staff to review other files that might have 'got lost' during Wiley's watch and follow up on them with prosecution if it merits so. I believe that there was some embezzlement un-covered in the District Court and reports were forwarded to Lighthorse which implicated two (2) employees (Jukich & Thornbrough) but nothing has been done yet. Let's hope that A.G. Moore has no allegiance with anybody but our Creek Citizens. Her actions or in-actions will be closely monitored so hopefully she will produce results. Good Luck Ms. Moore! Reply to this
9/3/2010 9:34 AM
Anonymous wrote:
The Chief? Please state your reasons, otherwise I will request that VOC delete your little comment. We have always been asked to state reasons and an attempt at a solution with any comment submitted. VOC, can you do that? Reply to this
9/3/2010 8:46 PM
Anonymous wrote:
fact 1. rules for removal
fact 2. forcing employee's to be loyal or fired.
fact 3. time and time again not following the constitution.
fact 4. the use of a white atty. making rules for the nation.
fact. 4. what was it that the AG found that got him fired?
fact 5. Cozzoni was working hard on the Tulsa casino, now that it is built and we are out of money, what did she know that could hurt us? is that a reason she got fired? what is chief hiding.
fact 6. keeping the lighthorse chief employed and not following the process for personnel and hiring of a officer.
do you want me to go on?
(VOC could respond to your list, one by one, but we will let others respond. They know much more than we do.) Reply to this
9/5/2010 8:31 PM
anon. again wrote:
Wow, You said all of that and we didn't even see Bill Fife's mouth move...LOL Reply to this
9/7/2010 7:00 AM
firstoldtimer wrote:
I would like to respond to your so-called facts that you have listed although I would venture a guess that you have no personal knowledge of the "facts" listed and they are assumptions on your part.
Fact 4(b): What the AG found was that he could not follow the Constitution of this Nation, he found that he could/would not follow the orders of the Supreme Court and he also found that there may be greener pastures as the Attorney of the National Council. Finally, he found out that he could not or would not prosecute anybody that may have embezzled monies from this Nation. He, in fact, has made the statement he is not a Prosecutor and thats a fact!
Fact 5: Cozzoni knew nothing, that was her problem. She was just another non-indian that sat around and drew a paycheck. Her and Wiley, are the most in-competent and un-ethical attorneys that have worked for this nation and that includes a long list of former attornies. As far as the reason for Cozzoni getting fired, I'm not sure that she was. She may have resigned on her own because she knew that she had constantly made disparaging remarks about the interim AG. Good riddance!
Fact 6: The lighthorse chief is in an interim position, as is the AG and the District Court Judge. They are in that position because the National Council wants to keep the Nation down and under their thumbs. They want their "people" in key positions of this Nation. Actually they want to ruin, I mean run, this Nation. How do you know the process of hiring and firing of officers are not being followed? Did a terminated officer tell ya so?
Your final question in your comments is "do you want me to go on?" Yes I do, please go on down the road and don't look back.
P.S. Fact 5 addition: The Chief is not hiding anything, he's been doing his job and that is to protect the sovereignty of this Nation and protect the funds that should benefit ALL Creek citizens.
Come back with ACTUAL facts, and not second and third hand information, and I will retract my comments. Have a good day. Mvto! Reply to this
9/20/2010 5:45 PM
None wrote:
I seem to remember Bill Fife not agreeing with the Council about his choice for Executive Director. He left him in Interim for a few years. What's good for the gander.... Reply to this
9/3/2010 7:13 AM
Anonymous wrote:
The New Attorney General should investigate if Roger Barnett and Shirlene Ade should be removed from office for violating Article VI, Section, 2(b) of the Muscogee (Creek) Constitution for not living in the District that elected them to office. Reply to this
9/3/2010 9:29 AM
Anonymous wrote:
This has been ongoing about Barnett for more than 3 yrs. Watchful citizens have observed him going home in Okmulgee at the end of the day, and driving straight into the garage so his vehicle can't be spotted. FACT.
Received the Little MCN Newsletter today and Barnett is listed as a Bristow Comm. Member who needs to update his 'mailing' address. How about his residence address too? There is a case for the AG here somewhere. (Tiger isn't listed so he probably does live in Bristow.) Therefore, the list must only be for those with no addresses in the BIC boundaries. Reply to this
9/3/2010 9:44 AM
Wow wrote:
We hope the AG will continue the investigation of the casino/communities which Ms Cozzoni was deeply involved in, so I was told. Surely, after all these months, PLUS the stated facts in those AUDITS, enough facts are in hand to file charges and prosecute. That should be #1. Reply to this
9/3/2010 7:10 PM
Curious wrote:
How about the apparent fraud and clear ethical misconduct of the Crowe Dunlevy law firm in its dealings with the Muscogee Nation and its tribal towns? Reply to this
9/16/2010 11:33 AM
Former RSC Worker wrote:
Why is it that VOC never published any of my information? What I speak is the truth and it would be of great information to the citizens of the Creek Nation to know where their money is going.
This blog offers MCN citizens an opportunity to voice their opinions. The pipe smoke says "TRUTH" & the text says "LET THERE BE NO LIES BETWEEN US."
I think that the A.G. should investigate River Spirit Casino to find out why it is not making the money it should. My reasons are I have personally worked there and I have seen the misconduct of money (which is the tribes money) I have seen employees that were unqualified for the position be promoted based on the fact that they have each others back. My question for the A.G. and the Creek citizens is, don't you want to know where the money is going. The VIP lounge is a waste of Creek Money. The VIP's are not happy with the activity that goes on in there. What about the $20,000 rug that was bought to be placed underneath the table these people eat off and spill their drinks and drop their food. Couldn't that money have been spent more carefully. And where is the rug today? $20,000 could have helped a lot of citizens. How about the salaries the hosts are being paid to bring in more customers, and more money. The host in place have no concept of selling the idea of entertainment. They show up for work and receive a check. Except for Amanda Reed, she has been brought before the GOAB for having sexual relations with the VIPs. This is no way to run a business. What about her DUIs. Does she not fall under the same rules as other employees? A.G. and citizens, look it up on the Oklahoma website, it will give you the dates of her DUI. Once again, this is Creek Money being spent on a non-Creek to support her habits. Follow the rules, eliminate a problem and increase the revenue of the Nation by hiring someone that is capable of selling the establishment as a great place to spend some time. A.G. go in and look at the reports for each hosts and tell the Nation who is actually earning their paychecks, and how many are Creek Citizens. A.G. check on the hiring practices within River Spirit Casino. The casino has a handbook, why don't they follow the rules of the handbook? When a job is vacant it is supposed to be posted on the board and everyone is to have the opportunity to bid on that job. Lately the jobs are not being posted, check into it! Tiffany Ellis left the casino to work for Creek Nation and she did not work for long before she went back to RSC in the same capacity she was in before she left. Shouldn't that job have been posted. How amazing it is to not have to worry about a job. I challenge you, A.G. and citizens to find out differently on my accusation. This is what I think the A.G. should investigate!
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9/25/2010 12:31 AM
another RSC worker wrote:
I agree with you. This is not the only department that needs to be investigated by the AG. How about the HR department, the players services department. Never mind that just go for broke investigate all the departments and groups in the RSC. No one in that place is playing by the rules. You can find many people and talk to them in private and someone will let you know the things that go on behind everyone's back. The department leaders go in and make sure that they tell each department who is coming in today if you are important. There are things that do need to be looked in to. Have fun I wish you all the beset of luck. By the way I am a well qualified Creek who was fired because I stood up for myself. Good luck to the AG, the Chief and all the creeks who I know have been done wrong by the people running the RSC. Reply to this
9/17/2010 8:18 AM
Anonymous wrote:
There should be a complete forensic audit done of the MCN Tribal Construction Department. It has come to my attention that the tribe is paying outrageous prices for the work being done on the new Elderly Housing Project. Reply to this
9/17/2010 1:33 PM
anon. again wrote:
Well, who the heck are you and what validation can you show to backup these accusations, sounds like another disgruntled former employee, we could probably check to see who has been terminated from this department and ascertain who this person is... Reply to this
9/19/2010 4:15 PM
Anonymous wrote:
To again....These are not empty accusations it is no secret that the contract for the project was split up in several pieces to avoid the approval process. Do your homework, if you really want the truth. Reply to this
9/19/2010 10:12 PM
Patient wrote:
Possibly also look into the shoddy construction of the Okmulgee health Clinic.
Also the extreme length of time. The clinic has been tore up for too long. It is a mess every time you go there. Who has oversight there? If it is the health system someone needs to re-evaluate the quality and quantity of work being done. We deserve a better clinic, improvement of services.
Not thinking there should be an investigation. Just someone in charge look at what is going on.
Why is this taking so long? Hopefully they will get more physicans to take care of us. Please.
MVTO Reply to this
9/20/2010 9:51 AM
employee wrote:
Why do we need an 8,000 sq/ft million Tribal Construction building for 5 employees??? No one else has that kind of room. Reply to this
9/20/2010 3:22 PM
Anonymous wrote:
If there are only 5 employees, then some of this space should be shared with a couple of other departments. Especially the Tax Commission. Ms Johnson and her department need to be on the property where they can be summarily observed. Maybe then we would know how many hours she does work at the office, also some of her employees. It has been stated before by the Chief that he would bring the Commission's offices onto the complex. When? Reply to this
9/21/2010 1:06 PM
Anonymous wrote:
AG's office: Investigate communities, starting with the GlenPool Community. It is being operated by Newman Frank and his Board of Directors completely against ethical rules and probably against community by-laws too.
He is on the agenda of Community Services & Cultural Committee tonite (9/21/10) after the 6:30pm Planning Session meeting. All of the Tulsa District reps should be there to bolster up the members who are very interested in saving their community. As of now, Concharty church gets more benefits from GIC than GIC members. The AG's office wrote up Mr. Frank once before about his out-of-boundaries activities before. Reply to this
9/21/2010 2:31 PM
anonymous69 wrote:
Concharty church runs Twin Hills Indian Community also. Very influential little church. Reply to this
9/22/2010 2:04 PM
Hmmmmm wrote:
Isn't there such a thing as separation between church and state? In this instance the tribe/community equals to the state. Reply to this
The new A.G. should begin by reviewing the transcripts of the testimony given during the Forensic Audits trial and, at the least, start civil actions against the people that admitted taking funds from Duck Creek (J. Fife $20,000 &
Daniel Wind $40,000) through a ruse concocted by both while employed with Duck Creek. She should also seek criminal charges if applicable.
She should also direct her staff to review other files that might have 'got lost' during Wiley's watch and follow up on them with prosecution if it merits so. I believe that there was some embezzlement un-covered in the District Court and reports were forwarded to Lighthorse which implicated two (2) employees (Jukich & Thornbrough) but nothing has been done yet. Let's hope that A.G. Moore has no allegiance with anybody but our Creek Citizens. Her actions or in-actions will be closely monitored so hopefully she will produce results. Good Luck Ms. Moore!
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the chief
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The Chief? Please state your reasons, otherwise I will request that VOC delete your little comment. We have always been asked to state reasons and an attempt at a solution with any comment submitted. VOC, can you do that?
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fact 1. rules for removal
fact 2. forcing employee's to be loyal or fired.
fact 3. time and time again not following the constitution.
fact 4. the use of a white atty. making rules for the nation.
fact. 4. what was it that the AG found that got him fired?
fact 5. Cozzoni was working hard on the Tulsa casino, now that it is built and we are out of money, what did she know that could hurt us? is that a reason she got fired? what is chief hiding.
fact 6. keeping the lighthorse chief employed and not following the process for personnel and hiring of a officer.
do you want me to go on?
(VOC could respond to your list, one by one, but we will let others respond. They know much more than we do.)
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Wow, You said all of that and we didn't even see Bill Fife's mouth move...LOL
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I would like to respond to your so-called facts that you have listed although I would venture a guess that you have no personal knowledge of the "facts" listed and they are assumptions on your part.
Fact 4(b): What the AG found was that he could not follow the Constitution of this Nation, he found that he could/would not follow the orders of the Supreme Court and he also found that there may be greener pastures as the Attorney of the National Council. Finally, he found out that he could not or would not prosecute anybody that may have embezzled monies from this Nation. He, in fact, has made the statement he is not a Prosecutor and thats a fact!
Fact 5: Cozzoni knew nothing, that was her problem. She was just another non-indian that sat around and drew a paycheck. Her and Wiley, are the most in-competent and un-ethical attorneys that have worked for this nation and that includes a long list of former attornies. As far as the reason for Cozzoni getting fired, I'm not sure that she was. She may have resigned on her own because she knew that she had constantly made disparaging remarks about the interim AG. Good riddance!
Fact 6: The lighthorse chief is in an interim position, as is the AG and the District Court Judge. They are in that position because the National Council wants to keep the Nation down and under their thumbs. They want their "people" in key positions of this Nation. Actually they want to ruin, I mean run, this Nation. How do you know the process of hiring and firing of officers are not being followed? Did a terminated officer tell ya so?
Your final question in your comments is "do you want me to go on?" Yes I do, please go on down the road and don't look back.
P.S. Fact 5 addition: The Chief is not hiding anything, he's been doing his job and that is to protect the sovereignty of this Nation and protect the funds that should benefit ALL Creek citizens.
Come back with ACTUAL facts, and not second and third hand information, and I will retract my comments. Have a good day. Mvto!
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Talk about factless statements!
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I seem to remember Bill Fife not agreeing with the Council about his choice for Executive Director. He left him in Interim for a few years. What's good for the gander....
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The New Attorney General should investigate if Roger Barnett and Shirlene Ade should be removed from office for violating Article VI, Section, 2(b) of the Muscogee (Creek) Constitution for not living in the District that elected them to office.
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This has been ongoing about Barnett for more than 3 yrs. Watchful citizens have observed him going home in Okmulgee at the end of the day, and driving straight into the garage so his vehicle can't be spotted. FACT.
Received the Little MCN Newsletter today and Barnett is listed as a Bristow Comm. Member who needs to update his 'mailing' address. How about his residence address too? There is a case for the AG here somewhere. (Tiger isn't listed so he probably does live in Bristow.) Therefore, the list must only be for those with no addresses in the BIC boundaries.
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Ole George lives in Sapulpa as he is the Representative here. Lucky us.
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We hope the AG will continue the investigation of the casino/communities which Ms Cozzoni was deeply involved in, so I was told. Surely, after all these months, PLUS the stated facts in those AUDITS, enough facts are in hand to file charges and prosecute. That should be #1.
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How about the apparent fraud and clear ethical misconduct of the Crowe Dunlevy law firm in its dealings with the Muscogee Nation and its tribal towns?
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Why is it that VOC never published any of my information? What I speak is the truth and it would be of great information to the citizens of the Creek Nation to know where their money is going.
This blog offers MCN citizens an opportunity to voice their opinions. The pipe smoke says "TRUTH" & the text says "LET THERE BE NO LIES BETWEEN US."
I think that the A.G. should investigate River Spirit Casino to find out why it is not making the money it should. My reasons are I have personally worked there and I have seen the misconduct of money (which is the tribes money) I have seen employees that were unqualified for the position be promoted based on the fact that they have each others back. My question for the A.G. and the Creek citizens is, don't you want to know where the money is going. The VIP lounge is a waste of Creek Money. The VIP's are not happy with the activity that goes on in there. What about the $20,000 rug that was bought to be placed underneath the table these people eat off and spill their drinks and drop their food. Couldn't that money have been spent more carefully. And where is the rug today? $20,000 could have helped a lot of citizens. How about the salaries the hosts are being paid to bring in more customers, and more money. The host in place have no concept of selling the idea of entertainment. They show up for work and receive a check. Except for Amanda Reed, she has been brought before the GOAB for having sexual relations with the VIPs. This is no way to run a business. What about her DUIs. Does she not fall under the same rules as other employees? A.G. and citizens, look it up on the Oklahoma website, it will give you the dates of her DUI. Once again, this is Creek Money being spent on a non-Creek to support her habits. Follow the rules, eliminate a problem and increase the revenue of the Nation by hiring someone that is capable of selling the establishment as a great place to spend some time. A.G. go in and look at the reports for each hosts and tell the Nation who is actually earning their paychecks, and how many are Creek Citizens. A.G. check on the hiring practices within River Spirit Casino. The casino has a handbook, why don't they follow the rules of the handbook? When a job is vacant it is supposed to be posted on the board and everyone is to have the opportunity to bid on that job. Lately the jobs are not being posted, check into it! Tiffany Ellis left the casino to work for Creek Nation and she did not work for long before she went back to RSC in the same capacity she was in before she left. Shouldn't that job have been posted. How amazing it is to not have to worry about a job. I challenge you, A.G. and citizens to find out differently on my accusation. This is what I think the A.G. should investigate!
(VOC: Our members like to concur on posting questionable comments.)
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I agree with you. This is not the only department that needs to be investigated by the AG. How about the HR department, the players services department. Never mind that just go for broke investigate all the departments and groups in the RSC. No one in that place is playing by the rules. You can find many people and talk to them in private and someone will let you know the things that go on behind everyone's back. The department leaders go in and make sure that they tell each department who is coming in today if you are important. There are things that do need to be looked in to. Have fun I wish you all the beset of luck. By the way I am a well qualified Creek who was fired because I stood up for myself. Good luck to the AG, the Chief and all the creeks who I know have been done wrong by the people running the RSC.
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There should be a complete forensic audit done of the MCN Tribal Construction Department. It has come to my attention that the tribe is paying outrageous prices for the work being done on the new Elderly Housing Project.
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Well, who the heck are you and what validation can you show to backup these accusations, sounds like another disgruntled former employee, we could probably check to see who has been terminated from this department and ascertain who this person is...
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To again....These are not empty accusations it is no secret that the contract for the project was split up in several pieces to avoid the approval process. Do your homework, if you really want the truth.
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Possibly also look into the shoddy construction of the Okmulgee health Clinic.
Also the extreme length of time. The clinic has been tore up for too long. It is a mess every time you go there. Who has oversight there? If it is the health system someone needs to re-evaluate the quality and quantity of work being done. We deserve a better clinic, improvement of services.
Not thinking there should be an investigation. Just someone in charge look at what is going on.
Why is this taking so long? Hopefully they will get more physicans to take care of us. Please.
MVTO
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Why do we need an 8,000 sq/ft million Tribal Construction building for 5 employees??? No one else has that kind of room.
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If there are only 5 employees, then some of this space should be shared with a couple of other departments. Especially the Tax Commission. Ms Johnson and her department need to be on the property where they can be summarily observed. Maybe then we would know how many hours she does work at the office, also some of her employees. It has been stated before by the Chief that he would bring the Commission's offices onto the complex. When?
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AG's office: Investigate communities, starting with the GlenPool Community. It is being operated by Newman Frank and his Board of Directors completely against ethical rules and probably against community by-laws too.
He is on the agenda of Community Services & Cultural Committee tonite (9/21/10) after the 6:30pm Planning Session meeting. All of the Tulsa District reps should be there to bolster up the members who are very interested in saving their community. As of now, Concharty church gets more benefits from GIC than GIC members. The AG's office wrote up Mr. Frank once before about his out-of-boundaries activities before.
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Concharty church runs Twin Hills Indian Community also. Very influential little church.
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Isn't there such a thing as separation between church and state?
In this instance the tribe/community equals to the state.
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