Ole George finally got one of the prizes he has been hankerin' for a long time. You see, he doesn't really want to be our tribal chief. He only wants the title. Heck with working for the citizens. Glory only.
We need to be reminded of his term on the NC that he and his NC soldiers refused to fund the organization when Chief Ellis requested the appropriation. VOC still have records of that past.
He finally received/elected as the President of the Inter-Tribal Council of Five Civilized Tribes yesterday, until January 2015. Length of time shortened due to ITC's changes in the election date which will now be held beginning of each year. There is still another organization he wants to head up, so that will also come up.
What we say is that when it comes time for his reelection for Creek chief, let him acknowledge that he only wants to be somewhere else. We shouldn't have to help him put another crown on his inflated head.
the people elected Chief Ellis eight elections in a row. You lost the
2nd Chief's election to him and the 2nd Principal Chief's election to
We are so sick and tired of you slapping our previous Chief in the face you childish buffoon.
Chief Cox is deceased, Chief Fife works for you and Perry Beavers children work for you.
are an adulterous thief with no sensibility for your position or
people. Soothing your enormous ego is all that matters to you along
with pleasing your wife because she could put you in prison. But as we
all know, a wife doesn't have to testify against her husband and Frances
wouldn't anyway because all her kids work for you too.
The newspaper as usual is full of pictures of Tiger, smiling, with that grin of prominence and total self-satisfaction.
WATCH OUT GEORGE. BILL FIFE MIGHT RUN AGAINST YOU IN 2015. Keep on singing Bill's praises and help him get elected.
yet keep bashing Chief Ellis and neglecting to give him his credit for
his accomplishments, his making history being the first Chief to be
elected in a primary election and Chief Ellis might just beat you for a
Give us your comments, opinions and any subject on which you want to comment. We will start with a few.
1. 2/22/14 NC Meeting: Interesting item brought up #NCA 14-029 which appropriates $550,000 for this year's MCN Festival. Lucian Tiger attempted to lower the figure to $368,000, with consideration to previous year's figures. George was given time to advocate for the bigger figure and so did his so-called son-in-law Wm Lowe. (George is always at the Council meetings and its probably for intimidation of the easily intimidated NC members.) Remember this was to be paid for by the GALA but we don't know how much that brought in. Apparently no enough as rumors are that George asked vendors to give more than what the books show, for his past due campaign debts! Anyway, the $550,000 passed. A tie vote, then the speaker voted for it, so we can lay the blame on him. Where will this money come from?
2. Communities: Glenpool recently received thousands of dollars to re-hab their community building. Its now reported that the MCN came & inspected the building and reported all is OK and that nothing needs to be done. Now, wouldn't that negate the appropriation received and they should give it back? Instead their Chairman Donna (Rhodes) Martin and a couple of board members are spending the funds like its going out of style. The illegal part is that the board is not presenting issues to the community to be voted on, all issues. Community needs to be investigated by MCN.
Tulsa: A letter, possibly libelous & slanderous, appears to have been written by a very disgruntled employee & distributed to several people. Has anyone received the letter? Rumors are that it came through an employee of the NC.
3. Previous article in the MCN Newspaper reported that 4 citizens would be going to Nicaragua on a cultural visit. We now understand that number was much closer to 16-18. Whatever the number, why don't we ever hear "truth"? Our money used?
4. Are you all viewers of the Saturday TV broadcast of MCN's "Native News Today"? Hopefully the host & guests can do the job sitting down. Another thing, Where is Gerald Wofford or What happened to him? He added a lot to that Communications department.
5. Have you heard talk that ole George is on a roll in getting rid of the white people in MCN jobs, with intent to get Creeks in all positions? Can you imagine what would happen if that came about? We wouldn't have many qualified Creeks to handle many of the positions. As it is now, we have many unqualified Creeks running our tribe, to our detriment.
Every time they schedule an Emergency Meeting, it just looks as if the council members are never prepared, can't look ahead or else George has come to them with another hair-brained idea and convinces the council that he has a really urgent problem. I guess they have no funds and besides they told us they had purchased Riverwalk. Apparently not. Wonder how much the incidental costs & improvements will cost?
I also thought all appropriation dollar amounts were supposed to be on the bill. Where are the figures? ORDER OF BUSINESS: NCA 14-021 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AMENDING NCA 12-094 (A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS TO BE USED TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF RIVERWALK CROSSING DEVELOPMENT AND FOR INCIDENTAL COSTS AND IMPROVEMENTS) AS AMENDED BY NCA 13-004 Sponsor: Franklin Coachman
ROUNDHOUSE VS HORSESHOE BEND TRIP! First, long lost twin
sister of shirlene Ade comes along & wants to travel on our $ to a
massacre site! How morbid of flat dumbass can we be?! Then get an
opportunity to fund a Roundhouse just to be asked by the Philip Deere
Family is an honor - that shouldn't even be a question! Anyone who is
native knows Phillip Deere & yeah he's my cousin too! our tribe wins
the title of the dumbest tribe on earth - yes poarch band creeks must
be our offspring!!
It is good to have all this information. What it lacks are the names of Principals of each department. (Like: of what is Dean Tiger now the boss? Or where are all the other relatives of George, Frances & Cherrah?) We have pictures of a few officials who are gone and we could have had pics of more new people.
We would have liked identification of people in all the pictures. We know what George, Roger and Cherrah all look like. They are ID'd over & over. Why not everyone else? Since they were pictured, they must be important. And besides when we want to complain (or praise) a department or an employee, we need to know who is in charge, especially who won't talk to us or return our phone calls.
Otherwise, a lot of good information. Like knowing how much it would cost a citizen to receive burial benefits.
Why do citizens act as if they don’t care what their government does,
and if they do, why don‘t they do something? What positive effects
are we hoping for when we repeat what is wrong with our Nation?
Can citizens change their attitude toward their government and become
more proactive without some kind of intervention? What steps are
necessary to influence citizens to become motivated participants in
making their government accountable?
Did you all receive this invitation to attend the event? Didn't realize it was by invitation only. We have really been left out except those of you who did receive the invitation. We should all go anyway, even though all the important members of other tribes and the important white friends will be there according to the print media. No mention of the plain Creek citizen and why are the employees being asked to remain for duration of the meeting?
Media reports cite the Osage's charges against Chief Red Eagle in impeachment trial, and found guilty of following: 1. Interfering with tribal attorney general investigation 2. Abuse of Power 3. Violating tribe's open records act 4. Refusing to implement a tribal law he disagreed with 5. Violating tribal & federal laws by using funds to pay a man $70,000 to work on his personal website
A member of tribal Congress stated "We have laws & rules in place and each elected official has a duty to uphold those laws."
************************************************************************ Same could work for our tribe if only EACH ELECTED OFFICIAL HAS A DUTY TO UPHOLD OUR LAWS would do their duty. The MCN chief has committed some of the same abuses.
*** A RESOLUTION OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATIONAL COUNCIL PROVIDING FOR
ADDITIONAL PROCEDURES RELATED TO TESTIMONY BEFORE THE NATIONAL COUNCIL OR ANY
OF ITS STANDING OR SPECIAL COMMITTEES – Sponsor: Frank Coachman
TR 14-002 A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE MUSCOGEE
(CREEK) NATION ADOPTING THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION STRATEGIC PLAN – Sponsor:
TR 14-007 A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE MUSCOGEE
(CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE PRINCIPAL CHIEF TO EXECUTE AN EVALUATION REPORT
APPLICATION WITH ICC EVALUATION SERVICE FOR AN EVALUATION OF THE NATION’S
STRUCTURALLY INSULATED PANELS – Sponsor: Adam Jones III
NCA 14-009***A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK)
NATION AUTHORIZING A SPECIAL APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS FOR A
PREMIERE SPONSORSHIP AND ADVERTISING OPPORTUNITY WITH TULSA RV RANCH ARENA TO
ESTABLISH THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION PROFESSIONAL BULL RIDERS CHAMPIONSHIP –
Sponsor: Adam Jones III $40,000.00
NCA 14-010***A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION
AMENDING MCNCA TITLE 37, §2-203 ENTITLED, “Permanent Fund” – Sponsor: Adam
*** Questionable !
Do we still have any funds left in the "Permanent Fund"? Is it needed to pay for NCA 14-009?
If nothing else is gained from a long trip to Okmulgee, maybe we can corner some Council Members and get some answers out of them on some issues.
Also, we understand that the election of officers of the NC will be held immediately after the oath-taking. Hope that is the right information. Some names mentioned for the Speaker are T. Yahola, Shirlene Ade and Adam Jones. Can you imagine that? We all realize Ade and Jones are BIG, BIG FOGS. Probably Yahola too, who held the spot previously and was not a very strong one, which may be good after the fiasco of Sam Alexander.
And it's also assumed they will "feed" at some point, as is past custom.
directly with David Nichols on his Facebook page at Mvskoke (Council)
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At 11/23/2013 NC meeting on disputed legislation #NCA 13-292 appropriating $21,993,801.00, an MCN attorney was asked his opinion on the legislation being discussed. He stated if it was him sitting at the NC table ready to cast a vote, he would vote NO as some important items were not in the bill & pointed out what he was talking about.
What do you think our hired/paid attorneys are for, if we do not take their advice into consideration when making important decisions? An NC member proposed a 2-month postponement of the bill. It was mightily challenged by Dode Barnett and A. J. Jones. They were 2 of the 10 who DID NOT want to postpone the vote. This was highly suspect since I believe they were looking forward to January 2014 when some new NC members would be seated & possibly not be in favor of the legislation. We already know Jones appears to be completely involved in this OneFire Holding Company, LLC and also Willowheart. They are all connected, right along with Georgie, and some of the other NC members.
NCR 13-004 A RESOLUTION OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATIONAL
COUNCIL PROVIDING FOR ADDITIONAL PROCEDURES RELATED TO TESTIMONY BEFORE THE
NATIONAL COUNCIL OR ANY OF ITS STANDING OR SPECIAL COMMITTEES – Sponsor: Sam
Alexander Postponed on 10/21/13
NCA 13-286A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK)
NATION AMENDING NCA 13-237 (A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION APPROVING THE
COMPREHENSIVE ANNUAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2014 AND PROVIDING FOR
APPROPRIATIONS) – Sponsor: David Hill
TR 13-132A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE
PRINCIPAL CHIEF TO EXECUTE AN ASSET PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF
RECREATIONAL AND TANGIBLE PROPERTY KNOWN AS “YOGI BEAR RESORT” AND REAL
PROPERTY KNOWN AS “OLD EUFAULA SCHOOLHOUSE” IN EUFAULA, OKLAHOMA - Sponsor: Dode Barnett (postponed from
TR 13-132A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE
MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE PRINCIPAL CHIEF TO EXECUTE AN ASSET
PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF RECREATIONAL AND TANGIBLE PROPERTY KNOWN
AS “YOGI BEAR RESORT” AND REAL PROPERTY KNOWN AS “OLD EUFAULA SCHOOLHOUSE” IN
EUFAULA, OKLAHOMA Sponsor: Dode Barnett (postponed from October)
TR 13-159A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE
MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE PRINCIPAL CHIEF TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT
FOR THE PURCHASE OF PROPERTY LOCATED IN LINCOLN AND OKFUSKEE COUNTY, OKLAHOMA -
Sponsor: Sam Alexander (postponed from October)
TR 13-163A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE
MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE NATION TO BORROW TWENTY THREE MILLION
DOLLARS FROM THE PERMANENT FUND TO BE USED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A GOVERNMENT
SERVICES BUILDING TO HOUSE VARIOUS TRIBAL PROGRAMS Sponsor: Adam Jones III
(postponed from EM Session, 10/29/2013)
NCA 13-232A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK)
NATION APPROPRIATING FUNDS TO BE USED TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF RECREATIONAL, TANGIBLE
AND REAL PROPERTY LOCATED IN EUFAULA, OKLAHOMA KNOWN AS
“YOGI BEAR RESORT” AND THE “OLD EUFAULA SCHOOLHOUSE” Sponsor: Dode Barnett ($9,500,000.00-postponed
NCA 13-268A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK)
NATION APPROPRIATING FUNDS TO BE USED TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF REAL PROPERTY
LOCATED IN LINCOLN COUNTY AND OKFUSKEE COUNTY, OKLAHOMA KNOWN AS PARK
BROTHERS-ACE HARDWARE Sponsor: Sam Alexander ($5,527,680.00-postponed from
NCA 13-276A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK)
NATION AUTHORZING THE APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS TO BE USED TOWARD THE CONSTRUCTION
OF A GOVERNMENT SERVICES BUILDING TO HOUSE VARIOUS TRIBAL PROGRAMS Sponsor:
Adam Jones III ($23,000,000.00-postponed
from EM Session 10/29/2013)
NCA 13-260A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION
AUTHORIZING A SPECIAL APPROPRIATION TO GLENPOOL CREEK INDIAN COMMUNITY FOR FY 2014
OPERATING BUDGET - Sponsor:
Kara Medina ($144,497.00) (Postponed 10/21/13)
Campaign rhetoric is cheap. Cheap candidate talk is what we have always
been fed. Cheap candidate talk is the reason why our government is not
accountable to citizens. We should not tolerate cheap candidate talk
any longer. Citizens must press candidates who promised to improve
conditions that citizens face to pass laws about what they promised
citizens they would change. Speeches are cheap; repealing and passing
are laws are extremely valuable. Citizens should judge the performance
of National Council members by the amount of legislation they produce
that match what they promised to do in their campaign promises.
Do citizens want the newly elected members of the National Council to introduce legislation for a forensic audit?
Do citizens want newly elected member of the Council--even before they
officially take office--to begin research for a legal definition of
“moral turpitude“ as found in Article VI of the Creek Constitution and
write legislation about how it can be applied to transgressors of this
Article after they are sworn into office?
Do citizens want newly elected members of the council to begin working on establishing a campaign finance law?
Do citizens want a law/resolution requiring members of the National
Council to appear before citizens at certain times to answer citizens
Do citizens want newly elected members of the Council to consider a bill
prohibiting anyone in the Creek Nation government from receiving
compensation from any source exceeding an amount that is set at the time
of taking elective office?
Do Citizens want the newly elected members to create legislation
describing in detail the responsibilities of elected officials in
communicating with citizens, and the ways and means that will be deemed
acceptable to discharging this responsibility?
Citizens must remind themselves that the National Council
Representatives are first and foremost legislators. Their main jobs are
to make laws that make government accountable. They are required to
share their opinions, to tell us what they are doing, to ask citizens
for advice, and tell us what they are going to do before they do it.
(VOC: Better yet, just copy above questions & send it or give it to each sitting Council Member, and let's see if any of them answer or what their answers are. Let's seeif theyrealize what their duties are to their office and to the citizens.)
Okfuskee District:Mitch Jack - - - - - - won 1,189 vs 1,062 for Wind
Okmulgee District:James Jennings - - - won 1,307 vs 933 for Thomas
Tulsa District: Lucian Tiger III - - -won 1,297 vs 941 for Alexander
These figures were posted 9:42PM, 11-2-2013, and will not be considered official until after 5:00PM, Friday 11-8-2013.
(VOC gives a big thank you to all of you commenters & readers of "thevoicesofcourage".With all the information we were all able to contribute, we have no doubt that it was a tremendous help for the winners of this election & eliminating the incumbents. Great job, people.)
Won't this type of emergencies ever end? Surely the speaker Sam Alexander knew this issue was ready & needed to be put before the whole council for a vote. But no, they don't do that because they use the emergency session as their "behind the closed doors" action since not many citizens who even know what the permanent fund is will be in attendance & won't question.
Read the dollar amounts. Can they tell us how much will be left in the permanent fund after this un-named building funding is approved? You can pick up on how they go about getting the funding. First, they get the votes to borrow the money (when & how will it be paid back). Then, they divulge on what that funding will be used for. Very low-down & sneaky.
TR 13-163 A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE NATION TO BORROW TWENTY THREE MILLION DOLLARS FROM THE PERMANENT FUND TO BE USED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A GOVERNMENT SERVICES BUILDING TO HOUSE VARIOUS TRIBAL PROGRAMS Sponsor: Adam Jones III
NCA 13-242 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING A SPECIAL APPROPRIATION TO A MUSCOGEE (CREEK) COLLEGE STUDENTSponsor: David Nichols ($1,068.66)
NCA 13-276 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE A GOVERNMENT SERVICES BUILDING APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS TO BE USED TOWARD THE CONSTRUCTION OFTO HOUSE VARIOUS TRIBAL PROGRAMS Sponsor: Adam Jones III ($23,000,000.00)
Just a little tidbit that some people know about, and some have started talking. As of now, you may think it is just a rumor, but we kid you not. It's a big secret that has been held tightly: It's that Johnna has a son, about 5 yrs old, and George is the father. In other words, their affair has been going on about as long or longer that George has been married to Frances. All the stories Johnna has repeated on social websites have been about 2 daughters, never a mention of a son.
That is what she is probably holding over George's head, wanting living arrangements, living expenses, and who knows what else, in the lawsuit that's pending. She already has the house. Does she have a job to pay a mortgage? Rumors are that the National Council has already made secret appropriations for any legal determination if Johnna wants to extract a certain amount of money to settle the lawsuit. Transparency in our Executive Branch? Ha Ha.
By the way, isn't George's day in court about that lawsuit matter tomorrow, October 23?
The Giles couple, Cherrah & Justin have appointed jobs, making & taking a large chunk of MCN tribal funds as salary, and yet we wonder exactly what are their job descriptions? Do you suppose it includes "photo ops", where ever it may occur? They seem to be pictured at every event that occurs, even those just slightly related to Creek Nation. And it seems as if they have become spokesmen for the tribe.
We have experienced trying to do business with Community Research& Development (CR&D), and Mrs. Giles is never around, and her managers don't know what or how to respond to any inquiry. We don't even wonder if George knows all this, but I'm sure he knows. Cherrah is one of his closest friends/consultants, with relatives galore also on the tribal dole. We want top management who has a working knowledge of what they're supposed to be doing.
New Topic? (Requested by Confused NDN) Newest Alexander Release:
I just received another campaign message from Slammin' Sammy and I'm
confused. Is A.D. Ellis or Judge Moore running against Alexander?
* * * * * * * * *
MESSAGE TO CREEK VOTERS. As noted earlier, former Principal Chief A.D.
Ellis is heavily involved in the current legislative elections. Ellis
required collusion from others to accomplish his intended stale mating
of tribal government his last two years or so in office. Willing and
able to provide his part of that collusion was District Court Judge
Patrick Moore, who could have gracefully retired after after 25 years of
service in early 2010
when he had the National Council polled to see whether another proposed
appointment from the Principal Chief would survive the required National
Council approval. In the February 2010 National Council session, the
bill re-appointing former Judge Moore failed with 3 yes votes and 20 no
votes. Because Moore's appointment called for "no carryover in office",
his term officially expired on June 30, 2010. He would not leave,
ignoring tribal law covering his final appointment. Instead, one Supreme
Court Justice declared on June 30, 2010 individually that Judge Moore
would stay until another Judge was appointed. There was and is no
statutory authority for this unlawful procedure, but stay he did. In
September 2010, the National Council passed a law abolishing the
District Court and establishing another District Court with three
Judges. After the bill was vetoed by former Chief Ellis, the National
Council over rode the veto in October 2010. Former Judge Moore again
ignored established tribal law and stayed, Thus the government endured a
Judge whose term had expired hearing cases in a court that had been
abolished.The once proud Muscogee (Creek) Nation Judicial Branch became
the laughing stock of the legal community, Indian and non-Indian. Many
attorneys refused to come to Okmulgee to participate in the sham court
system. Failing once again to perform his duty to appoint another
District Court Judge, former Chief Ellis never made another appointment
for the bench.
For the life of me I do not understand why the votes would want to take a
step backwards by electing candidates taking support, financial or
otherwise from these two outlaws.Voters have a right to know why LUCIEN
TIGER has chosen this route. In truth, the present administration and
National Council have accomplished more in a year and a half than former
Chief Ellis was able to accomplish in eight years.
* * * * * * * *
Whewwwww! Not sure of the
accomplishments by either administration but I'm sure that the present
administration has spent more money in a year and a half than Chief
Ellis did in eight years. And, nothing to show for it. Slammin' Sammy
has become so delusional, MCN Behavioral Health should step in.
Has anyone else received the hate mail that Sam
Alexander has sent out? I talked with three family members and a friend
and they all received a postcard slamming the former chief of creek
nation. Anyone know what they say?
(VOC: The run-off between Lucien Tiger III and Sam Alexander, the final votes were: Alexander received 587 votes and Lucien Tiger received 949 votes.)
A. D. Ellis DID NOT receive any votes, contrary to Alexander's campaign against him.)
More stories are still coming out about our Georgie Tiger & his family (ODCR).
Another must-read about our Georgie is his campaign bio in trying to be elected president of NCAI. Hope NCAI people are willing to read our information to keep themselves from looking like fools, if they should elect our Georgie.
Important Dates to keep in mind: Friday, October 25, 3 p.m. Protest at the Muscogee (Creek) Nation Tribal Complex
Saturday, November 2, 7 a.m. - 7 p.m. General Election for Seat B for Okfuskee, Okmulgee and Tulsa District
Creek citizen over the age of 18 should get out and vote. The only way
to remove the incumbents from office are to vote them out. The citizens
voted out Eddie LaGrone and Keeper Johnson, let's get Pearl Thomas, Lena
Wind and the evil takes its form in the shape of Sam Alexander. Vote!
(VOC: Keep in mind that if P. Thomas, L. Wind and S. Alexander get back on the Council, it is simply helping George keep his plurality to continue his "transparency" and "shove-it-down-the citizens-throats" way of governing as he has inflicted on us, along with those 3 FOGs. We need to continue identifying the FOGs.)
Choices on 11/2/2013 election: James Jennings vs Pearl Thomas (Okmulgee District) Mitch Jack vs Lena Wind (Okfuskee District) Lucien Tiger III vs Sam Alexander (Tulsa District)
This topic includes more than one item. Somehow, as topics, they are probably related to each other.
GT's Gala - Saturday, 10-12-13 @ River Spirit Event Center. This is what it would have cost you if you wanted to go (deadline was 9-13-13): Major Sponsor: $10,000.00 Table Sponsor: $ 5,000.00 Evening: $ 3,000.00 Individual: $ 250.00 And for $5,000 & upwards, WOW! You could get 30 minutes personal time with George and Roger Barnett. They will thrown in the inductees, whomever they are. Just a reminder though. Last year, after being fired from MCN employment, Ms Johnna Douchette Townsend stated all over the internet that the gala was her idea & that she had done all the planning, and George did not give her credit for it. Maybe that's why he got her a house(s).
The attorney representing Johnna in her lawsuit against her paramour George is from the law firm of Allen & Wisner (Muskogee OK). The Wisner in this firm is the sister of our former MCN's MNBE CEO Michael Wisner, who is said to have doing a lot of talking to the Feds, about George, Roger, and some other tribal officials who he knows about. Interesting, isn't it? (Voice 4 stands corrected. Apologize for error. Wisner was CEO of Trade & Commerce, not MNBE. Thank you)
About Creekside Management Group, the firm hired as contractor on the Cox dome building: Who are they? We hear they have been in business only about a year, and if you look it up, sounds like their offices in Okmulgee are located in a not-so-nice-area. Who found this firm? It was sponsored by Darrel Proctor & Co-Sponsored by AJ Jones, both of McIntosh District. It wouldn't be surprising if this is just another "front" for a FOG, and George is all set to get $$$ for personal pockets as will those 2 NC members. Some citizens even say they don't believe all the repairs being mentioned are not for real. Hope someone keeps track of the repairs which will be done.
George has thrown his hat into the ring, wanting to be elected as President of the "National Congress of American Indians".
Our guess is he still wants to walk in two worlds, and as the Chief, he only has one world filled with nothing but Creek Indians. That isn't enough for him.
Don't know who does the electing or voting; the Board of NCAI or the entire registrants at the conference. Hope they take some time to educate themselves on George, his past and present history. None of it will enhance their organization. .................................................................................. New Topic Please. If we can't impeach, have a gathering, boycott
or walk the highway against this Chief, could everyone please write a
letter anonymously to:
NCAI Attn: Jacqueline Pata 1516 'P' St. N.W. Washington "D. C. 20005
maybe it would be better for us for him to be in Washington D. C. and
have Roger Barnett run our Nation. They are two of a kind you know.
No one needs to know where the letter came from except that you care about Indians. ................................................................................. The NCAI really needs to know about the thief, liar, adulterer and more, without any morals good character or ethics. Those are his personal characteristics. And his penchant for how he runs the tribal government is undesirable, with no respect for the laws and especially the citizens that he said he wanted to lead for betterment. All he knows how to do is spend money, no matter how much, as long as it isn't his. Even for his girlfriends/mistresses. Those are the same types of people he surrounds himself with. Enough of him.
NCAI, if this sounds like the type of person you want leading your organization, please take him away. We do not want him around our tribe now or ever again.
INFORMATION TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM THE MUSCOGEE NATION NEWS, THE SEPTEMBER 15, 2013 EDITION.
Naming rights to another piece of property: MUSKOGEE PUBLIC SCHOOLS football field at the Indian Bowl, to be called the Muscogee (Creek) Nation Field. TR 13-117 was passed at the August 24th NC meeting. This is at the mere cost of $15,000 per year for 5 years, and according to PR Manager Edwin Marshall, since the money was available in the budget and he saw the advertising benefits. Of course, the good thing is that MCN will have 1st opportunity to renew the naming deal after the 5-yr contract expires.
Another: MNBE has purchase naming rights to Rex's Chicken franchise for $150,000.. signed away by MNBE CEO Woody Anderson on 9/6/13. He states that architectural designs are in the works for the restaurants to be placed at the Muskogee & Okmulgee Travel Plazas. No more Burger King???
So now, we will have our tribal name on everything and every building that comes calling, and we will throw money at it, since we have so much money in the budgets - but we will have nothing to show for any of the dollars we are putting into signs. Or do we get a cut of some of the profits? That hasn't been any part of the newspaper articles. Just less money for our needy tribal services.
The newer organization ENHOMATTV SEMVHECKVLKE will be hosting a Voter Rally on Friday, September 20, 2013 at the McCombs Building, front lobby at 2:00pm - 3:00pm.
Here is the lure: Snacks-Music-Door Prizes (They're smart enough to know what will bring in the Indians.) Reminding everyone to Shake the Vote on Saturday, 9/21/13
********************************* Wonder where they got the idea? This is Cherrah & Justin Giles, neither has any original idea. They can only do things with other people's money (ours). No doubt with our money for the goodies, and the wages which will be paid for the time off employees will be paid to HAVE TO ATTEND. Many dollars for campaigning. I'm trying to imagine all those people gathering in the front lobby of that building.
If they can do this, so can we, right? We're just as important, even though we aren't funded by anyone.
The MCN Primary Election Day is: September 21, 2013
MCN General Election Day is: November 2, 2013.
To those of you who vote in person, please set aside some time to go vote. The more voting, the merrier.
Please give us your comments on who deserves our votes, or why a candidate does not. We all need to know, and any additional information we have will help us in making our decisions.
VOC definitely would like to see the Constitutional Amendment defeated, the one where the Council members want to get rid of the At-Large Voting for Representatives. The reason CN member Thomas Yahola gives for going back to the old way IS A LAME REASON. We want to try this new way of electing the NC members a little longer as it needs time to acclimate the voting citizens in its intent.
Who should be the main target of the "Idle No More" protest?
Should it be elected officials, citizens, or the larger Creek and
VOC believes it should include the Elected Officials because they are part & parcel to all the happenings which has led us to this point.
All Citizens, because they have been willing to vote for the officials we have now, without even knowing what kind of people they have been voting for OR because they did not even vote stating they had no input and that it doesn't matter if one votes or not.
Non-Creek because they indeed need to see the real truth behind how our elected officials are running our Creek government. They need to see what kinds of characters they have been dealing with, either believing what they see & hear from our leaders. They have not seen or heard the actual truth - the things we all know. Lack of ethics, lack of character, lack of openness in how our elected officials govern (no transparency), and lack of respect for the citizens & employees for which they are supposed to be doing good. Nothing could be further from the "real truth". In plain words, they are immoral too. Is that the kinds of officials that outsiders like doing business with, or are they also part of the debacle that is going on and simply don't care?
It really is time to let everyone know the "real truth", and let the chips fall where they may.
There are some stalwart kissers (followers) of George on the Council, and some of them are running for re-election. This is the time to tell them HELL NO. No do-overs for that time has passed.
Of the ones who voted against Ms D. Barnett's bill to dethrone Sam Alexander as Speaker, four (4) are running for re-election: JOHNSON, JONES, NICHOLS & YAHOLA. Come on, voters. DO THE RIGHT THING & DON'T GIVE THEM ANOTHER CHANCE. And keep in mind, SAM ALEXANDER is also running for re-election.
If you talk to any of the reps, ask them about George's present problem, and they will tell you it cannot possibly affect them since they are all individuals & have their own minds. HA Ha we say.
GEORGE TIGER HAS FINALLY BEEN OUTED PUBLICLY BY HIS MISTRESS, JOHNNA TOWNSEND, THINGS WE HAVE ALL KNOWN FOR AT LEAST 2 YEARS. More investigating needs to be done by others about things we have heard, like the mistress having received 3 houses. Yes folks, that's three (3).
TR 13-103A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE
MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE PRINCIPAL CHIEF TO EXECUTE AN ASSET
PURCHASE AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF THE OKMULGEE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL LOCATED
IN OKMULGEE, OKLAHOMA Sponsor: Johnnie Greene
NCA 13-188A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION
APPROPRIATING FUNDS TO BE USED FOR THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR THE OKMULGEE
MEMORIAL HOSPITAL LOCATED IN OKMULGEE, OKLAHOMA, FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE
CALENDAR YEAR Sponsor: Pearl Thomas
NCA 13-189A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK)
NATION AUTHORIZING AND APPROVING THE PURCHASE PRICE OF THE OKMULGEE MEMORIAL
HOSPITAL TO BE THE ASSUMPTION AND PAYMENT OF ALL DEBTS AND OBLIGATIONS OF THE
OKMULGEE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL RELATED TO OR ARISING FROM THE USE, OWNERSHIP AND
OPERATIONS OF THE OKMULGEE MEMORIAL HOSPITAL LOCATED IN OKMULGEE, OKLAHOMA Sponsor: Pearl
NCA 13-190 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION REPEALING MCNCA
TITLE 18, §2-102, ENTITLED “Higher Education; Tribal grants” AND REPLACING IT
WITH A NEW TITLE 18, §2-102, ENTITLED “Higher Education; Tribal grants” Sponsor: Keeper Johnson
NCA 13-191 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION
REPEALING MCNCA TITLE 18, §2-403, ENTITLED “Guidelines” AND REPLACING IT WITH A
NEW TITLE 18, §2-403, ENTITLED “Guidelines” FOR THE POST-GRADUATE PROGRAM Sponsor: Keeper Johnson
NCA 13-192 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION
AUTHORIZING A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION TO THE HIGHER EDUCATION-TRIBAL GRANT
PROGRAM FISCAL YEAR 2013 BUDGET Sponsor: Keeper Johnson
(VOC: Where are dollar figures that are required to be on such legislation?)
UN-OFFICIAL AS OF TODAY, BUT HERE ARE THE NAMES OF OUR MCN STALWARTS & STANDARD-BEARER HOPEFULS - - All for Seats "B".
CREEK DODE BARNETT (I) FRANCES MORGAN McINTOSH ADAM JONES (I) WILSON BEAR TOM PICKERING MUSKOGEE EDDIE LaGRONE (I) JOYCE DEERE OKFUSKEE LENA WIND (I) CELESTA JOHNSON MITCH JACK OKMULGEE JAMES JENNINGS KEEPER JOHNSON LIZANNE HOLATA VIRGINIA THOMAS PEARL THOMAS (I) TUKVPVTCE THOMAS YAHOLA (I) MARTHA GIVENS TULSA SAM ALEXANDER (I) LUCIAN TIGER RODNEY JOSIE CAROL McHENRY WILLIAMS WAGONER/ROGERS/MAYS MARK RANDOLPH (I) -- NO OPPONENT
We all know most of these candidates, however, think 2, 3, 4 times or more before casting your single vote, as it really counts. No such thing as 'it's only 1 vote'.
We would even think more than twice before casting votes for the incumbents (I). McIntosh district presents the most troubling slate, as we believe none should be allowed to be on the Council. Tulsa district doesn't need Alexander anymore (he's a bully). Doesn't help anyone.
HOPEFULLY, SOME OF YOU CAN PRESENT INFORMATION ON ANY CANDIDATE YOU KNOW, TO HELP EVERYONE GAIN SOME KNOWLEDGE OF THEM. The campaign brochures never tells the whole story on themselves, so it's up to us to delve past them.
REMEMBER, THE ENTIRE CREEK NATION CITIZENS CAN CAST VOTES ON EACH & EVERY DISTRICT REP, SO LET'S EDUCATE OURSELVES - THEN FOLLOW UP BY VOTING.
Out of the many talks we hear, the Council is nothing more than a rubber-stamp for Ole George, gladly approving anything that Ole George wants.
Do they really agree? Have they all read the entire legislations submitted? If so, are they able to comprehend? Are they afraid to be of their own minds and opinions? Are they trading votes for some favor for their own districts? Are they trading their votes for election support they received from Ole' George?
Take your pick or give us your pick. Election is coming up for some of them, and we should start finding out who is our representatives are representing.
When VOC 1st opened this website, it was all because of the corrupt actions of that large membership of council members who were in place at the time. Some are still there. We may need to rehash information too. George & Roger & Sam were part & parcel of the NC back then. We will look up all of them shortly. As stated, Election is almost here.
VOC is putting this information here as there are a lot of citizens who don't know about this aspect of our gaming endeavors. NIGC allows, investigates, etc. as stated in the qualifications & other information. Does "other corrupting influences" include internal corruption, which is likely probable within the Creek Nation's gaming business.
Following is what NIGC's responsibilities entail The National Indian Gaming Commission is an independent Federal regulatory agency whose primary mission is to regulate gaming activities on Indian lands for the purpose of shielding Indian tribes from organized crime and other corrupting influences; to ensure that Indian tribes are the primary beneficiaries of gaming revenue; and to assure that gaming is conducted fairly and honestly by both operators and players.
The National Indian Gaming Commission (NIGC) is authorized to conduct investigations; undertake enforcement actions, including the issuance of notices of violation, assessment of civil fines, and/or issuance of closure orders; conduct background investigations; conduct audits; and approving Tribal gaming ordinances.
The NIGC, Office of the General Counsel is seeking an attorney with broad knowledge of and experience in federal Indian law as it pertains to tribal gaming, the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act, and federal, state, and tribal gaming laws and regulations. The ideal candidate must be capable of making sound legal recommendations and exercising judgment on a wide range of challenging legal issues.
TR 13-085 A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING THE PRINCIPAL CHIEF TO EXECUTE AN
AMENDED TRADEMARK SUB-LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH MARGARITAVILLE
OF OKLAHOMA, LLC.
Sponsor: Sam Alexander
(On this, we have heard rumors that Margaritaville may be thinking of backing
out. Do you all think that may be happening?)
NCA 13-136 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING ASUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION TO THE OFFICE OF
PRINCIPAL CHIEF’S FISCAL YEAR 2013 BUDGET. Sponsor: Dode
NCA 13-141 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS TO THE SOCIALSERVICES DEPARTMENT’S TRIBAL ENERGY PROGRAM’S FY
2013 BUDGET. Sponsor:
Pearl Thomas ($84,000.00)
NCA 13-148 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS TO THE SOCIAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT’S NATURAL DISASTER PROGRAM’S FY 2013 BUDGET. Sponsor: Johnnie Green ($90,000.00)
(These 3 bills = Over $450,000.00. Is this the same appropriation that George
has been trying to get the NC to approve for months? Under different names & reasons too.)