New topic as requested. Why won’t George Tiger tell us what he is doing?
George, why don’t you want citizens to know what you’re doing? or even who you are?
Why won’t you tell citizens about the master plan that you have that spells out where you’re taking them? Do you have a plan? Is it a written plan?. Why haven’t you published it, along with pictures of yourself, like you usually do? Who has seen it? Has your plan been discussed in meetings? Does it tell us what, when, where , how, why something will happen?
Why don’t you tell citizens what you are doing? Why don’t you tell citizens what you’re e going to do? Why won’t you tell us what you have done? Is it because you don’t know where you’re going? It is because you don’t know how to write? Is it because if you produce a plan it will make you accountable? It is because you are afraid of failure? It is because you don’t want citizens to know what you are doing, or because you don’t want citizens to know you are over your head.
Why don’t you tell citizens what you’re doing before you tell the Tulsa World? It is because citizens are not important to you or because you don‘t trust them, or is it because you know that you can bully them?
Why won’t you tell us what the Creek Nation will have in place that is working and is helping citizens to become self-reliant and do this at the end of your second year in office. (its called a projection) When will you tell us when we will receive anything in return for the millions of dollars you have invested and how much that will be? (an estimate will be helpful)
What do you mean when you say on television that you want outside businesses to work with the Creek Nation? What kind of businesses do we have that is making any money that others would want to work with the Creek Nation on?
Citizens report that some Council members say that information made to the public is often not fully discussed with them.
Citizens don’t know who you are. Could you provide information about your principles and standards? Citizens are interested in the process that you go through to estimate or determine the value of something.
NCA 13-044 A law of the MCN authorization special appropriation to Office of Principal Chief’s FY 2013 budget. Sponsor: S. Ade ($456,400.00). Postponed on 3/14/13
NCA 13-091 A law of the MCN authorization the Chief to make certain commitments to the U. S. Federal Reserve System in order to qualify as a bidder at an auction on a portion of the U. S. Treasury’s preferred stock ownership position in Spiritbank, and approving certain Legal provisions, including a limited waiver of sovereign immunity in furtherance of the Commitments. Sponsor: S. Alexander.
TR 13-049 A tribal resolution of the MCN confirming the nomination of Selina Jayne-Dornan as a PART-TIME GAMING COMMISSIONER of the MCN Office of Public Gaming. Sponsor: S. Ade
NCA 13-085 A law of the MCN authorizing a special appropriation to Checotah Indian Community. Sponsor: D. Proctor; Co-Sponsors: K. Medina & L. Wind ($6,641.00)
(VOC: Picked some of the more interesting items from last evening's Planning Session agenda.)
Does the story below from the Navajo Nation sound familiar? ////////////////// Criminal Charges Filed Against Ex-Navajo Lawmaker
By FELICIA FONSECA Associated Press FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. April 17, 2013 (AP)
A former Navajo Nation lawmaker has been charged with receiving kickbacks, submitting false information and conspiring with a colleague to funnel nearly $100,000 to members of his immediate family while he served on the Tribal Council.
Prosecutors from the Rothstein Law Firm announced the filing of 24 charges against Ernest Yazzie Jr. on Tuesday. The charges represent the first criminal case brought by the law firm that took over an investigation of the Tribal Council's use of discretionary funds in 2011, but it won't be the only case.
Prosecutors have said they intend to file charges against other current or former Navajo lawmakers. They say their investigation has revealed two common abuses — that lawmakers gave money to their own families or the families of other lawmakers.
Criminal complaints filed in Window Rock District Court allege nearly one-third of the discretionary funds allocated to Yazzie between 2006 and 2009 went to his wife and three children. Yazzie served two terms on the Navajo Nation Council starting in 2003, representing the communities of Churchrock and Breadsprings in New Mexico. He lost a bid for re-election in 2010, after voters reduced the Tribal Council from nearly 90 members to 24.
At the time, another prosecutor had brought criminal cases against a majority of the 88 lawmakers, alleging massive fraud in the use of discretionary funding intended for Navajos on fixed incomes, college students, organizations in need or Navajos seeking money for emergencies. The prosecutor, Alan Balaran, eventually settled or dismissed those charges but filed a civil case that included many of the same defendants.
Balaran's contract wasn't renewed. The Rothstein Law Firm took over the investigation and is evaluating the civil complaint. Of the 85 defendants named in it, 75 remain.
Yazzie is representing himself in the criminal case filed this week. A call to a number listed for him in Sanders didn't go through.
In a 2010 interview with The Associated Press, Yazzie said he believed the complaints filed by Balaran were politically motivated and meant to keep certain lawmakers out of office. He defended the use of discretionary spending, saying: "It's our own people doing for their own people. What's wrong? At least us, we help the people."
The other day I was talking with a member of my family and we got on the subject of the future of the tribe. One topic turned into another and we soon realized that the Muscogee (Creek) Nation is at a fork in its governmental life that we, as citizens and government officials, should soon decided on a course for the remainder of the twenty-first century.
In our present state, we have elected officials who are addressing only their own personal agenda despite the numerous promises and well-known dilemmas that each subgroup in the tribe face (increasing health care costs for senior citizens, access to tribal facilities, health care professional shortage, rising cost of tuition in higher education, decreased funding for public education, increased unemployment in the counties, decreased revenue from the casinos, possible private gaming establishments in Texas, Kansas, Arkansas and Missouri and the overall increase of living expenses throughout the state and the nation) versus citizens who would like to promote the overall success and agenda of the tribe.
Should the administration continue on its present course and possibly dismantle the foundation of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation that has been created or could they change their direction and work towards better serving all the tribal members?
Problems: How do we move the tribe forward without losing those cultural connections and traditions while still being professional and progressive? Do we give up those traditions and teachings in order to be successful in modern America?
The tribe is divided into four characters of citizens. The first group is the administration's supporters. The second group are those who are in opposition of the administration. The third group are those who are apathetic towards the Creek government and the fourth group are citizens who do not care. What's sad is that the last group are the majority of citizens. Where do you see the tribe heading in the next four years? 8 years? 10 years? 50 years? Do you still think there will be a tribe in the future?
VOC has re-visited this comment and decided to give it a topic, as it sounds like a curious story.
Copied from another topic. ABOUT 2ND CHIEF ROGER BARNETT. A little tidbit that I heard about. Maybe some of you have heard this too. There
is a small shopping center at 31st & Sheridan (NE corner), and
there is a Bingo business there. A few tribal car tags were spotted
behind the bingo place, and ROGER BARNETT appeared to be one of those,
as he was spotted getting out of his vehicle and going into the back
door of the bingo place. I wonder what the heck would he be doing
there. Is it possible he may have some absconded gaming machines in
there? Since MCN/GOAB now owns most of the machines, could he have
access to some extras? Or maybe even Rocket machines or is something
very corrupt going on with our elected official and his partners?
Again, most of we citizens have learned of the big hotel addition to the River Spirit Casino location "from today's issue of the Tulsa World newspaper". Why is George so determined to notify the other world before letting us citizens know?
If issues are already settled, there is nothing we can do so he can at least hold his news conference at the MCN complex for the citizens, who deserve this little courtesy to officially learn of goings-ons, then go into the city to announce his big coup to the other world.
He apparently holds no respect for our citizens, only to get himself out in front of the other world for personal publicity. He is always saying "we want be good neighbors", but he obviously doesn't mean "he wants to be a good neighbor/leader to HIS CITIZENS."
Throwing money & things in our faces doesn't mean a thing compared to how he treats us. That is part of our heritage & cultural upbringing. We would rather get a genuine handshake than a $100 bill to buy us.
Some of us are still stuck in our cultural heritage and probably so completely out-of-touch with the ethics and self-promotion of today's beliefs of our leaders. So be it!
Previous topic still good. The following items are additions to the agenda as they are interesting, and we aren't including some other agenda items.
TR 13-033 A TRIBAL RESOLUTION OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING GAMING OPERATIONS AUTHORITY BOARD TO EXECUTE A GAMING MACHINE VENDOR AGREEMENT WITH THE MIAMI TRIBE OF OKLAHOMA BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY D/B/A ROCKET GAMING SYSTEMS. Sponsor: Robert Hufft (Folks, remember Nelson Johnson is Gaming Commissioner and is part and partial of Rocket Gaming, and George has been known to be connected, if you know what that means! Hufft probably has his hands in there too. This is pure conflict-of-interest with everybody involved - or corruption is the better description.)
NCA 13-055 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING A SPECIAL APPROPRIATION FOR THE CREATION OF A MVSKOKE NATION ARTS COUNCIL AND ESTABLISHING A TASK FORCE TO DEVELOP, ORGANIZE AND PROVIDE A DETAILED PROPOSAL FOR ITS IMPLEMENTATION – Sponsor: Kara Medina ($97,040.00) (Another Beaver & Giles idea, no doubt.)
NCA 13-058 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION REAFFIRMING SUPPORT FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE MUSCOGEE SACRED SITE OF HICKORY GROUND NEAR WETUMPKA, ALABAMA AND AUTHORIZING A SPECIAL APPROPRIATION FOR THE COST OF NECESSARY MEASURES RELATED THERETO – Sponsor: Sam Alexander; Co-Sponsor(s): D. Barnett; F.Coachman; J.Greene; D. Hill; M. Randolph; T. Yahola ($297,688.00)
NCA 13-059 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING A DONATION TO FIRE IN THE CAMP MINISTRIES – Sponsor: Darrel Proctor; Co-Sponsor: Adam Jones III ($5,000.00) (What is this?)
NCA 13-062 A LAW OF THE MUSCOGEE (CREEK) NATION AUTHORIZING A SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATION TO THE VETERANS AFFAIRS SERVICES OFFICE (VASO) FOR FISCAL YEAR 2013 BUDGET – Sponsor: Adam Jones III; Co-Sponsor: D. Proctor; S. Alexander ($107,628.00)
TERM LIMITS for National Council effective in 2013!!!
MadMan Tiger has our tribal funds at his disposal to buy back all NC seats he wants.
He paid for many last election with his undisclosed contributions from less than honest people.
GET THE CONVENTION NOW!!
This NC will with 3/4 'yes' votes, can place a question on the agenda without our permission. The question will be: "THE OFFICE OF PRINCIPAL CHIEF SHALL HAVE NO TERM LIMITS EFFECTIVE THIS ELECTION." Yes No
Tiger will fight against us on having a CONVENTION. He will use LightHorse, Security, bribary, threats and any unsavory method he can scrape up.
Here again is another story learned from the Tulsa World newspaper of November 2, 2012 edition, written by Kevin Canfield. The MCN certainly doesn't give us any information, nor does the MCN Newspaper, until after the fact. Are they all in this together to keep us in the dark?
Our MCN's George Tiger and MCN Council Speaker Sam Alexander have pulled another trick on the citizens of our Nation, at a cost of $120,00 per month/$1.44 million per year to get our name on the Expo Square building which has been referred to as "QuikTrip Center". It will now be called the "Muscogee (Creek) Nation Center".
What advantage does this give to MCN? It probably has a lot to do with horse-racing deals, since Ron Schotts appears to be joyful about all this. And it probably gets the Osage and Cherokees off the hook on the contributions they have been required to make to Ron Schotts' and that enterprise, a money-loser for years.
What will we accomplish with this for the near future? Does our deal include contracts that are already in place such as the CHILI BOWL or the BASS MASTERS TOURNAMENT and other events? Will we get some $$ back out of them?
We are just at a loss as to where all the money is coming from to pay for this and RiverWalk Crossing. We can only think of how many houses we could supply to our citizens, how many pay raises could we give to our employees, how many more services could we supply to our citizens, and a lot more.
We aren't even given a true and open budget so we can only guess. Is George and the NC using gaming generated funds for all these extra-curricular spending? OR THEY SPENDING DOWN OUR PERMANENT FUNDS BECAUSE WE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY-MAKING ENTERPRISES MAKING THIS KIND OF MONEY?
All George and his council want is personal ego satisfaction and more than likely private funds into their pockets.
1st we read in the Tulsa World's article today with NC Speaker Sam Alexander sounding a mite disturbed that the attorneys for Kialegee came to council members, probably wanting to deal. We aren't told what exactly they wanted.
Now we hear that good ole' George is in more deeply than he ever admitted, from different sources. It has been reported that George made a deal with the Giles/Kialegee casino debacle, written right into the contract, that he would receive 5% of the deal to be paid to himself.
And the topper is that he made the deals while still a member of the National Council as Speaker. It's also been reported that some Agency is investigating ole' George and his money-grabbing activities, ALL ILLEGAL.
Of course, that is the reason as we all surmised way back then why he wouldn't or couldn't simply say a plain NO NO NO to the Giles/Kialegee bunch. He just hemmed & hawed every time he opened his mouth about what the Creeks would do - allow the casino or not allow.
But we told you so. Did anyone believe VOC? Let's hear some more if you would like to contribute.
WHERE: RiverSpirit Event Center, 8330 Riverside Parkway, Tulsa, OK 74137
This year, the Muscogee (Creek) Nation will host the inaugural MVSKOKE
Hall of Fame Induction Gala at the RiverSpirit Event Center in Tulsa,
The MVSKOKE Hall of Fame induction requires that the
individual must have brought recognition to the Muscogee (Creek) Nation
or have made outstanding contributions to the quality of life and
development. The inductee's achievements may be local, national, or
international in scope.
Individuals inducted to the MVSKOKE Hall
of Fame will be honored for their achievements in any of the following
fields of endeavor: Arts, Business/ Professional, Voluntary Service and
Public Affairs. Nominations or selection to the MVSKOKE Hall of Fame is
not restricted to these fields and individuals may be inducted for their
accomplishments in more than one area.
The inaugural MVSKOKE
Hall of Fame replaces the Living Legends ceremony that was conducted
during the annual festival. The MVSKOKE Hall of Fame Induction gala
offers\the Muscogee (Creek) Nation, Indian Country and the local
community the ability to honor inductees at a black tie &
traditional clothing gala. Sponsorship opportunity is available for this
Contact: William Lowe Muscogee (Creek) Nation Tourism & Recreation Department (918) 732-7992
MVSKOKE Hall of Fame Sponsorshop Agreement ### VOC Note: The Living Legends created by Chief Ellis was for Creeks and it was free too. This George Tiger creation appears to be for anyone, and it will end up being all NON-CREEK event. And I hope pictures are taken of our White-wannabes in their Black Tie get-up, if they know what that means. they are asking for sponsorships of $10,000 with a lot of perks; $5,000 with fewer perks; $3,000 only perk is you can bring 8 guests, OR for $250., you can also attend too but no perks. Oh, and the $10,000 & $5,000 money, you CAN SPEND 30 MIN. with George, Roger and the Inductees. There is more - look on the MCN's website. VOC travels in the wrong crowd, but it keeps us clean! WHO WILL GET ALL THAT SPONSORSHIP MONEY? IT WON'T BE THE TRIBE, TRUST US ON THAT.
VOC has been told many times about how employees are instructed to stay away from the VOC.
Communities are told to destroy any VOC publications/newsletters that show up, throwing in a few threats. Lo and behold, one better not be caught viewing VOC's website on tribal computers. Understandable if it's across-the-board rule, like including Ed Mouss/Robert Trepp's website.
Just who are the ones making these decisions? It would be interesting to know who they are and why. Is it fear? VOC doesn't come close to threatening anyone, other than to advocate for/against in elections. And that's because of knowledge of their morals, past behaviors, political leanings, etc.
We know there is hatred involved in what we have heard. Why do they hate VOC? To our knowledge, VOC has not lied about anything. When accused, we have challenged accusers to produce any of our lies, and nothing has ever been brought up. (Some who post comments do not count as VOC. They are encouraged to be truthful and offer solutions to any situation.) VOC IS SIMPLY CURIOUS. It will not change VOC. VOC will change when VOC wants to change.
This is a post from "TheNightWatchman". It deserves a topic, so here it is.
Not sure where to post this but it needs to be said. Judy Aaron is
living up to her reputation and destroying the Sapulpa clinic. If you
get your care there and like your doctor you better call and find out
where they are moving to because they are all leaving thanks to her!
I've heard the nurses are even trying to move to other clinics. They
won't be able to open the doors with no employees! Get her out of
Now that Dean Tiger lost the election where will George place him to
work within Creek Nation? Dean was too lazy and stupid to win the
election because we was off getting drunk every night and not
campaigning. George has already gotten all his other relatives jobs
within the Nation. Let us predict where ol’ Dean Tiger will be working.
Two of Georges kids Molly and His son work in tourism and recreation
just like his mistress was working there. And what has Molly Moore done
for that department besides break up the Directors marriage and make him
leave his kids? That job is the "get head" job. George was getting head
from Johnna Townsend for that job when she was there and when she got
fired, now George still benefits by employing his wifes daughter. Maybe
Dean will be in Tourism or maybe in the AG office where his other
daughter works. Well let us see who does George have in his pocket. Will
he work for Cherrah Ridge? We all know Cherrah Ridge will do what ever
the chief tells her to do. Even if it means employing a loser like Dean
Tiger. Why not? George keeps her man employed in a fake museum. Or will
it be William Lowe? The AG? What are Dean Tiger’s qualifications to work
for the Nation? I know a bunch of idiots voted for him for some reason.
Let’s all guess where his next high paid job will be for the nation?
That way we can see if we are right.
VOICES OF COURAGE NEW TOPIC PLEASE: (As requested)
To the citizens of the Muscogee (Creek) Nation,
the first six months, this nation has become more broken and diluted
than ever before. The elected officials we have put our faith and trust
in have become dictators and tyrannical fascist leaders bent on exposing
our weakness of money, corruption and above all, power. These men and
women have taken the Muscogee (Creek) Nation Constitution and dismantled
it from its powerful protection of laws to nothing more than guidelines
that they can abuse. The very laws that the legislators passed many
years ago to protect the interest of the nation and the citizens are
being disregarded without fault or reason. We elected them because
of broken promises and dark lies that they gave to the citizens for the
purpose of securing their election. What have they given us? To some,
they have taken away their integrity, honor, respect and dignity while
they promoted themselves as leaders. To a few individuals, they took away their job, financial security, family support and contribution back to the tribe. Are
these good people that we want to look up to and memorialize in our
tribe's history? How can we explain their leadership to future
generations if we cannot even trust or respect the type of work they are
doing? I once heard it said that in order to sell a novel, the people
love fantasy over reality. The time has now come to begin
preparations for the future. I cannot live in a reality where crime and
corruption are more appealing than the latest Law & Order episode.
Where does this great work begin? In just under four years, about 42
months to be exact, the Tiger/Barnett administration will be concluded.
In that time, I would like for the citizens to elect someone new with
positive visions, appealing outlooks on the tribe's interest and above
all else, to return the government back to the people. Who am I speaking of, you may ask? Well, I don't know just yet. But here's where the citizens come in.
the next four years, until the next election, I will begin an ambitious
campaign and savings program for the qualified candidate. I will set
aside $100 a month from my paycheck, if not more should I be able to
afford it, and on the time of filing, I'll turn over my account to the
candidate. At the time of filing, I should have well over $4,000 in the
bank. This is the beginning of a grassroots campaign. No big business,
no casino vendor contributions, but a citizen making a stand against the
corrupt. It'll be hard honest labor saved up for a good, honest
candidate. It is now time we take this "tower of tolerance" that has become the tribe and begin rebuilding. I ask that some of you who can, do the same. If you can't, then I only ask you get out and get people registered to vote. "The night is darkest just before the dawn. I promise you, the dawn is coming." Mvto,
(This is all due to Wisner's actions while employed as CEO of MCN Trade & Commerce of the Enterprise Board.)
FOR RELEASE: February 27, 2012 SUBJECT: WISNER, Michael P., II
MUSKOGEE, OKLAHOMA - The United States
Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Oklahoma, announced that
MICHAEL P. WISNER, II age 40, of Mandeville, Louisiana, formerly of
Bixby, Oklahoma, pled guilty to an Information charging him with
Conspiracy, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 371
and Perjury, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1623.
Charges arose from an investigation by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
The Information alleges that from on or about June, 2008, to
on or about December, 2009, in the Eastern District of Oklahoma and
elsewhere, the defendant, knowingly and wilfully conspired with other
persons known and unknown to the United States Attorney, transmitted or
caused to be transmitted by means of a wire communication or the United
States Mail, communication for the purpose to defraud the United
States, the State of Oklahoma and the National Association of Attorneys
General of over $2.5 million in taxes and fees on the receipt,
possession, sale and distribution of cigarettes under the Master
Settlement Agreement, (MSA), all in order to obtain money by means of
false and fraudulent pretenses, representations and promises. In
addition, the defendant knowingly made false representations while
under oath before a grand jury in the Eastern District of Oklahoma.
The Honorable Kimberly E. West, Magistrate Judge in the United
States District Court for the Eastern District of Oklahoma, accepted
the defendant’s guilty plea, and ordered the completion of a
presentence report. Upon its completion, sentencing will be
scheduled. The defendant remains on bond, pending sentencing.
Assistant United States Attorney Ryan Roberts represented the United States.
(VOC: It is being reported that sentencing is deferred to see what additional information and names Wisner will give up to the Feds. Wonder whose names he will give up, any guesses?)